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	<title>Comments on: Birth: I&#8217;m Gonna Climb That Mountain</title>
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		<title>By: An offended reader</title>
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		<dc:creator>An offended reader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 01:13:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why are you trying so hard to control everything?  Did you get pregnant while your husband was out of town and now you are trying to skew the dates?  Do you think if you get no prenatal care and don&#039;t deliver in a hospital that your husband won&#039;t figure it out when the baby isn&#039;t his?  

Or are you even pregnant?  Maybe you are trying cover up a recent weight gain by pretending to be pregnant so your husband won&#039;t divorce you when you go over your allowed weight.

But whatever it is... it all spells C  R  A  Z  Y ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why are you trying so hard to control everything?  Did you get pregnant while your husband was out of town and now you are trying to skew the dates?  Do you think if you get no prenatal care and don&#8217;t deliver in a hospital that your husband won&#8217;t figure it out when the baby isn&#8217;t his?  </p>
<p>Or are you even pregnant?  Maybe you are trying cover up a recent weight gain by pretending to be pregnant so your husband won&#8217;t divorce you when you go over your allowed weight.</p>
<p>But whatever it is&#8230; it all spells C  R  A  Z  Y &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 22:05:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It does prove something: you stated that you couldn&#039;t have skin-to-skin contact after a c-section.  I did.  Therefore, I proved you wrong.

I feel sorry for you because you want to control this whole thing and you can&#039;t!  I hope you wake up and realize you are no longer in the driver&#039;s seat.  This really isn&#039;t about the day or two you will spend giving birth, it is more about the lifetime after that.  Your perseverance in focusing on just the pregnancy and birth and not the *child* your body is nurturing is immature and selfish.  Having a baby is when you learn to care about something other than yourself, more than yourself- not just about getting attention and having showers thrown for you.  I hope you get that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It does prove something: you stated that you couldn&#8217;t have skin-to-skin contact after a c-section.  I did.  Therefore, I proved you wrong.</p>
<p>I feel sorry for you because you want to control this whole thing and you can&#8217;t!  I hope you wake up and realize you are no longer in the driver&#8217;s seat.  This really isn&#8217;t about the day or two you will spend giving birth, it is more about the lifetime after that.  Your perseverance in focusing on just the pregnancy and birth and not the *child* your body is nurturing is immature and selfish.  Having a baby is when you learn to care about something other than yourself, more than yourself- not just about getting attention and having showers thrown for you.  I hope you get that.</p>
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		<title>By: Evelyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evelyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 01:59:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Intervention free generally refers to NOT being induced too.  As induction is an intervention.  I believe it&#039;s generally accepted that anyone that is induced or has to have pitocin in the process of labor is expected to have an epi or some kind of pain meds because the contractions are so unnaturally strong, close together, etc., that they are extremely difficult to bear.  Every woman that endures pitocin in labor without pain meds (even for a period of time) deserves a medal, because that pain is simply NOT natural and it&#039;s not meant to be felt!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Intervention free generally refers to NOT being induced too.  As induction is an intervention.  I believe it&#8217;s generally accepted that anyone that is induced or has to have pitocin in the process of labor is expected to have an epi or some kind of pain meds because the contractions are so unnaturally strong, close together, etc., that they are extremely difficult to bear.  Every woman that endures pitocin in labor without pain meds (even for a period of time) deserves a medal, because that pain is simply NOT natural and it&#8217;s not meant to be felt!</p>
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		<title>By: Jenna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jenna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 01:15:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anecdotal evidence proves nothing. One time I had a bladder distention for interstitial cystitis and haven&#039;t had any symptoms since. Most patients have to have the surgery every few years to have those kind of results. It&#039;s great that you had the kind of experience you wanted, but you do understand that the data doesn&#039;t agree that this is the norm, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anecdotal evidence proves nothing. One time I had a bladder distention for interstitial cystitis and haven&#8217;t had any symptoms since. Most patients have to have the surgery every few years to have those kind of results. It&#8217;s great that you had the kind of experience you wanted, but you do understand that the data doesn&#8217;t agree that this is the norm, right?</p>
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		<title>By: Anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 22:46:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uh. Hmm.  You do come off as a know it all.  I hope that nothing horribly wrong happens to your baby as a result of your selfishness.  BTW- I had two c-sections and I had skin-to-skin contact with both my babies immediately after birth and started breastfeeding before they even closed me up-- so not sure where you get your info but some of it is plain wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uh. Hmm.  You do come off as a know it all.  I hope that nothing horribly wrong happens to your baby as a result of your selfishness.  BTW- I had two c-sections and I had skin-to-skin contact with both my babies immediately after birth and started breastfeeding before they even closed me up&#8211; so not sure where you get your info but some of it is plain wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Evelyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evelyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 20:55:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the clarification, it honestly sounded like you were trying to imply that... =D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the clarification, it honestly sounded like you were trying to imply that&#8230; =D</p>
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		<title>By: Tasha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tasha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 20:08:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, no, no. Please don&#039;t take it in that context. I guess what I was trying to say is I have a very hard time relaxing, and it takes a lot. So, to have something to relax me and help limit my exhaustion from contractions was all I was trying to convey. I don&#039;t think less of anyone for taking or not taking some sort of medication/drug for their birthing experience.

I remember my husband doing something similar with our child when he was first born. I was most touched when there were tears shed the first time my husband held him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, no, no. Please don&#8217;t take it in that context. I guess what I was trying to say is I have a very hard time relaxing, and it takes a lot. So, to have something to relax me and help limit my exhaustion from contractions was all I was trying to convey. I don&#8217;t think less of anyone for taking or not taking some sort of medication/drug for their birthing experience.</p>
<p>I remember my husband doing something similar with our child when he was first born. I was most touched when there were tears shed the first time my husband held him.</p>
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		<title>By: Evelyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evelyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 19:21:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You said, &quot;I wanted it because I wanted to be able to care for my newborn baby following his birth.&quot;  I guess it kinda sounds like you think those who don&#039;t take pain meds are too tired to do that, so I guess I just wanted you to know--that generally the reason why women go without pain meds is for that very same reason, and although a nap may occur in the first few hours after a baby is born, most women who gave birth naturally are able to take care of their babies in the same way you described.

Coming from a woman with that experience, I think I dozed for about 20 minutes but one of my favorite memories is of my husband taking our little baby and walking around the room whispering sweet things to her as I fell asleep and woke up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You said, &#8220;I wanted it because I wanted to be able to care for my newborn baby following his birth.&#8221;  I guess it kinda sounds like you think those who don&#8217;t take pain meds are too tired to do that, so I guess I just wanted you to know&#8211;that generally the reason why women go without pain meds is for that very same reason, and although a nap may occur in the first few hours after a baby is born, most women who gave birth naturally are able to take care of their babies in the same way you described.</p>
<p>Coming from a woman with that experience, I think I dozed for about 20 minutes but one of my favorite memories is of my husband taking our little baby and walking around the room whispering sweet things to her as I fell asleep and woke up.</p>
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		<title>By: LittlestBirds</title>
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		<dc:creator>LittlestBirds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 18:40:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I sympathize with your desire to inspire others to consider natural birth, but have you considered that the fact that some have told you they felt judged by your choice of language might have driven away a lot of people who could possibly have become interested in natural birth? I see this as analagous to when we try to convince other people to explore a particular religious faith; if they feel judged, they&#039;re going to feel pushed farther away instead of drawn in. 

I noticed you were a big fan of the blogger Dooce&#039;s birthing posts. I know she isn&#039;t your style at all, but perhaps in this matter you could take a page from her book. She described the natural birthing experience in a way that was brutally honest but that also made even the most hard-line nonbeliever think twice about how wonderful it sounded. There was never a hint, a breath, a word of judgment or condemnation for those who chose a different type of birth. She didn&#039;t say a thing that would make an epidural-taking-mother feel guilty. Just something to think about - I know it must be a challenging process for you, speaking on such a large platform, trying to figure out how to reach people in the most positive manner. Good luck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I sympathize with your desire to inspire others to consider natural birth, but have you considered that the fact that some have told you they felt judged by your choice of language might have driven away a lot of people who could possibly have become interested in natural birth? I see this as analagous to when we try to convince other people to explore a particular religious faith; if they feel judged, they&#8217;re going to feel pushed farther away instead of drawn in. </p>
<p>I noticed you were a big fan of the blogger Dooce&#8217;s birthing posts. I know she isn&#8217;t your style at all, but perhaps in this matter you could take a page from her book. She described the natural birthing experience in a way that was brutally honest but that also made even the most hard-line nonbeliever think twice about how wonderful it sounded. There was never a hint, a breath, a word of judgment or condemnation for those who chose a different type of birth. She didn&#8217;t say a thing that would make an epidural-taking-mother feel guilty. Just something to think about &#8211; I know it must be a challenging process for you, speaking on such a large platform, trying to figure out how to reach people in the most positive manner. Good luck.</p>
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		<title>By: Hannah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hannah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 10:20:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I completely agree with this sentiment. You have articulated it way better than I have been able to at any point. 

I love your blog Jenna, but I felt judged as a woman when I am not even engaged let alone TTC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I completely agree with this sentiment. You have articulated it way better than I have been able to at any point. </p>
<p>I love your blog Jenna, but I felt judged as a woman when I am not even engaged let alone TTC.</p>
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		<title>By: schmei</title>
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		<dc:creator>schmei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 03:02:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two of my other favorite bees - Kasia Fink and Kimberly Michelle - gave similar suggestions and I hope you&#039;ll take those to heart, Jenna. Your readers want to hear about your journey, and about what you read and learned that made you feel the way you do. I think the first two &quot;Birth&quot; posts did a nice job of that. Then we got this one. It&#039;s bothered me for days, and I just came back and read all the comments and was relieved that I wasn&#039;t the only one who felt that I was being judged (and I am pretty far on the organic-crunchy granola chem-free birthing pool side of the fence here). I&#039;m not even TTC yet and I feel judged. Just for being a woman, I think. I think that&#039;s why it&#039;s bothered me so much.  You&#039;ve veiled a certain contempt for &quot;some women&quot; in language of education and choice, and that is offensive. 

Please just keep telling us about That Life. Don&#039;t tell me how to live mine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two of my other favorite bees &#8211; Kasia Fink and Kimberly Michelle &#8211; gave similar suggestions and I hope you&#8217;ll take those to heart, Jenna. Your readers want to hear about your journey, and about what you read and learned that made you feel the way you do. I think the first two &#8220;Birth&#8221; posts did a nice job of that. Then we got this one. It&#8217;s bothered me for days, and I just came back and read all the comments and was relieved that I wasn&#8217;t the only one who felt that I was being judged (and I am pretty far on the organic-crunchy granola chem-free birthing pool side of the fence here). I&#8217;m not even TTC yet and I feel judged. Just for being a woman, I think. I think that&#8217;s why it&#8217;s bothered me so much.  You&#8217;ve veiled a certain contempt for &#8220;some women&#8221; in language of education and choice, and that is offensive. </p>
<p>Please just keep telling us about That Life. Don&#8217;t tell me how to live mine.</p>
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		<title>By: Tasha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tasha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 14:06:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I may not have been as well informed as I would have like to have been, but I did know that when it came to the epidural I wanted it because I wanted to be able to care for my newborn baby following his birth. I wanted to be able to nurse him and not be completely and utterly exhausted after he was born. Other than being able to rest and take a very short nap, I am glad I took the epidural because there isn&#039;t much that I don&#039;t remember, because I was awake and fully aware.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I may not have been as well informed as I would have like to have been, but I did know that when it came to the epidural I wanted it because I wanted to be able to care for my newborn baby following his birth. I wanted to be able to nurse him and not be completely and utterly exhausted after he was born. Other than being able to rest and take a very short nap, I am glad I took the epidural because there isn&#8217;t much that I don&#8217;t remember, because I was awake and fully aware.</p>
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		<title>By: In response &#171; Moonlight and Magnolias</title>
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		<dc:creator>In response &#171; Moonlight and Magnolias</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 09:07:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Birth: I’m Gonna Climb That Mountain [...]</description>
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		<title>By: missbutton</title>
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		<dc:creator>missbutton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 07:59:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wasn&#039;t going to comment, but I think this analogy is SO perfect.  (I have done the running thing, and not the birth thing, by the way...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wasn&#8217;t going to comment, but I think this analogy is SO perfect.  (I have done the running thing, and not the birth thing, by the way&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: Jamie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jamie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 06:17:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you realize how selfish this comment makes you sound?  Do you realize that you&#039;re saying that your &quot;dream experience&quot; is more important to you than your babies health?  Do you realize that by denying what is best for your baby you are putting risks on it&#039;s life... Do you realize that if something happened to your baby it would be your fault? 

Your talk about how you&#039;ve been &quot;educating&quot; yourself, when in reality you&#039;ve been reading research that supports your fantasy birth, yet you&#039;re ignoring any research that contradicts what you want.  This doesn&#039;t equate to being educated my friend, it equates to being ignorant.

Jenna, you really need to sit down and think about what is best for your baby.  That is what any caring mother would do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you realize how selfish this comment makes you sound?  Do you realize that you&#8217;re saying that your &#8220;dream experience&#8221; is more important to you than your babies health?  Do you realize that by denying what is best for your baby you are putting risks on it&#8217;s life&#8230; Do you realize that if something happened to your baby it would be your fault? </p>
<p>Your talk about how you&#8217;ve been &#8220;educating&#8221; yourself, when in reality you&#8217;ve been reading research that supports your fantasy birth, yet you&#8217;re ignoring any research that contradicts what you want.  This doesn&#8217;t equate to being educated my friend, it equates to being ignorant.</p>
<p>Jenna, you really need to sit down and think about what is best for your baby.  That is what any caring mother would do.</p>
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		<title>By: Tanne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tanne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 02:31:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FABULOUSLY said Michelle! I&#039;ve been struggling to put down exactly how I felt about this post and you said EXACTLY what was on my mind!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FABULOUSLY said Michelle! I&#8217;ve been struggling to put down exactly how I felt about this post and you said EXACTLY what was on my mind!</p>
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		<title>By: Mojito Maven</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mojito Maven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 22:15:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to ditto Kate here. I think it would be far better to dicuss YOUR own methods and why you chose them, not what every other woman is doing. Everyone is different.

Like Kate, we live very different lives (number one being we don&#039;t want children), but not only your post but some of your follow up comments had me shaking my head. Granted I know NOTHING of childbirth, having a baby, raising a child, etc, but to be frank, neither do you. So you&#039;ve done some research? Awesome. That is a step in the right direction. But you haven&#039;t ever actually pushed out a baby. I have a dear friend who recently went through an incredibly painful and intensive child birth. I would imagine this post would really upset her. 

I genuinely value your opinion and enjoy reading your blog, but even for someone that does not want children, this post was painful and hurtful for even me to read.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to ditto Kate here. I think it would be far better to dicuss YOUR own methods and why you chose them, not what every other woman is doing. Everyone is different.</p>
<p>Like Kate, we live very different lives (number one being we don&#8217;t want children), but not only your post but some of your follow up comments had me shaking my head. Granted I know NOTHING of childbirth, having a baby, raising a child, etc, but to be frank, neither do you. So you&#8217;ve done some research? Awesome. That is a step in the right direction. But you haven&#8217;t ever actually pushed out a baby. I have a dear friend who recently went through an incredibly painful and intensive child birth. I would imagine this post would really upset her. </p>
<p>I genuinely value your opinion and enjoy reading your blog, but even for someone that does not want children, this post was painful and hurtful for even me to read.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathryn Speyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathryn Speyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 21:39:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I (personally) agree with your opinion that natural childbirth is an &quot;ideal&quot; option, I also agree with the many who say that this post was hurtfully generalizing. 

I would love to have a natural childbirth myself. In fact, my (ideal) plan is to have a home birth attended by midwives and my husband, who is an NP. This makes him nervous, because he HAS been in a labor &amp; delivery ward and has seen many &quot;worst case scenarios.&quot; But as long as we&#039;re close to a hospital, he has agreed to let me follow this plan, IF I CAN.

My mother&#039;s longest labor was four hours. She never had any pain medications. She&#039;s not a big-hipped woman, and so I&#039;m AMAZED by this. I can only hope for the same! She did have to be induced for one of my three sisters because she was in distress (WPW Syndrome and ovarian hernia) but the rest of us were quick and non-assisted, even my youngest sister born when my mother was 40.

Honestly, though, I&#039;m not kidding myself. I know there&#039;s a lot that can go wrong. I don&#039;t believe that many people really ELECT for c-sections (like Britney Spears, who seemed to make it more of a cosmetic procedure than anything). But I do know that many people end up having them when things don&#039;t go right-- and that a vaginal birth on subsequent pregnancies (VBAC) IS possible, but can be dangerous. 

Now, here&#039;s where natural birth gets tricky. Some people stick to their guns on it so firmly that it gets them into trouble, endangering themselves AND the baby. For example, my friend Lindsay became pregnant and had an ideal pregnancy very much like you are describing your own ideal. She didn&#039;t see doctors, she visited a midwife and a natural clinic. Her pregnancy was great.

So she comes to term but doesn&#039;t start laboring. The baby cooks an extra week; then two. By then she&#039;s at the point where they start to worry, so her midwife begins natural induction. It works and she starts to labor. So far, so good!

She labors for 24 hours at home. Then 48. Then 72. By this time she is in active labor but her water has not broken. She labors for four days before her water breaks, but still has declined to go to the hospital, although it was recommended. Why would she? Nothing&#039;s wrong.

Finally, her water breaks, and she continues to labor for several more hours. The baby passes meconium. At this time, both the mother and the baby are at serious risk for infection. Finally, after five days of labor, she is taken to the hospital, running a fever and ill. 

The worst party of the story is that after all that, she HAD to deliver by c-section, not because of the risk she was in (though that was part of it) but because her 42-week old baby was too large to fit out of her cervix!

Now, I might have given up earlier, but I commend her for trying so hard. Hers definitely WAS a worst case scenario. After delivery, her baby had to be taken from her to have IV antibiotics administered, as did she. They are, thankfully, both fine and thriving now.

I wasn&#039;t there for the labor, but I do often wonder if perhaps she could have made a better decision for both her and the baby&#039;s health by not sticking to her guns so firmly and placing them both in a dangerous situation.

Just like climbing a mountain and running a marathon, everyone&#039;s experience IS different because we&#039;re all different people. For some it&#039;s easy, for some it&#039;s nearly impossible. The experience matters, yes, but ultimately finishing safely is the goal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I (personally) agree with your opinion that natural childbirth is an &#8220;ideal&#8221; option, I also agree with the many who say that this post was hurtfully generalizing. </p>
<p>I would love to have a natural childbirth myself. In fact, my (ideal) plan is to have a home birth attended by midwives and my husband, who is an NP. This makes him nervous, because he HAS been in a labor &amp; delivery ward and has seen many &#8220;worst case scenarios.&#8221; But as long as we&#8217;re close to a hospital, he has agreed to let me follow this plan, IF I CAN.</p>
<p>My mother&#8217;s longest labor was four hours. She never had any pain medications. She&#8217;s not a big-hipped woman, and so I&#8217;m AMAZED by this. I can only hope for the same! She did have to be induced for one of my three sisters because she was in distress (WPW Syndrome and ovarian hernia) but the rest of us were quick and non-assisted, even my youngest sister born when my mother was 40.</p>
<p>Honestly, though, I&#8217;m not kidding myself. I know there&#8217;s a lot that can go wrong. I don&#8217;t believe that many people really ELECT for c-sections (like Britney Spears, who seemed to make it more of a cosmetic procedure than anything). But I do know that many people end up having them when things don&#8217;t go right&#8211; and that a vaginal birth on subsequent pregnancies (VBAC) IS possible, but can be dangerous. </p>
<p>Now, here&#8217;s where natural birth gets tricky. Some people stick to their guns on it so firmly that it gets them into trouble, endangering themselves AND the baby. For example, my friend Lindsay became pregnant and had an ideal pregnancy very much like you are describing your own ideal. She didn&#8217;t see doctors, she visited a midwife and a natural clinic. Her pregnancy was great.</p>
<p>So she comes to term but doesn&#8217;t start laboring. The baby cooks an extra week; then two. By then she&#8217;s at the point where they start to worry, so her midwife begins natural induction. It works and she starts to labor. So far, so good!</p>
<p>She labors for 24 hours at home. Then 48. Then 72. By this time she is in active labor but her water has not broken. She labors for four days before her water breaks, but still has declined to go to the hospital, although it was recommended. Why would she? Nothing&#8217;s wrong.</p>
<p>Finally, her water breaks, and she continues to labor for several more hours. The baby passes meconium. At this time, both the mother and the baby are at serious risk for infection. Finally, after five days of labor, she is taken to the hospital, running a fever and ill. </p>
<p>The worst party of the story is that after all that, she HAD to deliver by c-section, not because of the risk she was in (though that was part of it) but because her 42-week old baby was too large to fit out of her cervix!</p>
<p>Now, I might have given up earlier, but I commend her for trying so hard. Hers definitely WAS a worst case scenario. After delivery, her baby had to be taken from her to have IV antibiotics administered, as did she. They are, thankfully, both fine and thriving now.</p>
<p>I wasn&#8217;t there for the labor, but I do often wonder if perhaps she could have made a better decision for both her and the baby&#8217;s health by not sticking to her guns so firmly and placing them both in a dangerous situation.</p>
<p>Just like climbing a mountain and running a marathon, everyone&#8217;s experience IS different because we&#8217;re all different people. For some it&#8217;s easy, for some it&#8217;s nearly impossible. The experience matters, yes, but ultimately finishing safely is the goal.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Kaye</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary Kaye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 21:35:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Being a mother of  five, i&#039;ve experienced a few (most) kinds of birth- but i&#039;d just like to say- they are all difficult (and wonderful)- you experience something totally unique however you deliver and if you think you can somehow escape or intensify the birthing experience by choosing one way or another- you may be a little shocked when it actually happens.  How ever you do it - It&#039;s great that you are going into it open to the Experience (and open to doing what&#039;s best for both you AND your bebe) because again however it happens- it will be amazing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being a mother of  five, i&#8217;ve experienced a few (most) kinds of birth- but i&#8217;d just like to say- they are all difficult (and wonderful)- you experience something totally unique however you deliver and if you think you can somehow escape or intensify the birthing experience by choosing one way or another- you may be a little shocked when it actually happens.  How ever you do it &#8211; It&#8217;s great that you are going into it open to the Experience (and open to doing what&#8217;s best for both you AND your bebe) because again however it happens- it will be amazing.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathryn Speyer</title>
		<link>http://thatwifeblog.com/2009/09/birth-im-gonna-climb-that-mountain/comment-page-2/#comment-13041</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathryn Speyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 21:16:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with this, having run two marathons myself. There&#039;s tons of training involved, and tons of different types of runners. Some train more, some train less, some fail to train. And the marathon (labor in this analogy?) is different for everyone. Skilled runners can knock one out no problem. Ultramarathoners scoff at a mere 26.2 miles. To new runners it seems impossible. The beginning may be easy, or you may push too hard. Toward the end, you may feel great, or you may be in terrible pain and hallucinating. Whatever the case, it&#039;s a great accomplishment once you&#039;ve finished, even if you limp across the line!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with this, having run two marathons myself. There&#8217;s tons of training involved, and tons of different types of runners. Some train more, some train less, some fail to train. And the marathon (labor in this analogy?) is different for everyone. Skilled runners can knock one out no problem. Ultramarathoners scoff at a mere 26.2 miles. To new runners it seems impossible. The beginning may be easy, or you may push too hard. Toward the end, you may feel great, or you may be in terrible pain and hallucinating. Whatever the case, it&#8217;s a great accomplishment once you&#8217;ve finished, even if you limp across the line!</p>
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