It’s a known phenomenon in clinical drug trials.

The power of optimisim or pessimisim on the human body will never cease to amaze me.

Other people do this, right? Right????

As far as cost, I can’t remember the exact cost of each bottle but I do remember paying $90 for 5 bottles (the B-12 Trace Minerals were $14 for a 90 day supply I think). I ordered my refills through Amazon and Sarah hasn’t pressured me since to buy through them, even though I’m sure she knows my previous supply has run out. I do wish I would have been strong and said “Can I just write down these names and order them myself somewhere else?” but sometimes in situations like that I’m wimpy and just go with what the person is suggesting to avoid “confrontation”. I’m sure I’m not the only one who reacts this way at times.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/11/opinion/11shattuck.html?_r=2

I am planning on avoiding vaccines from multiple use containers, but not because I think it will cause autism, because I think that the preservatives used to keep those containers from being contaminated can cause harm and aren’t included because they are good for the body, but because multi-dose containers are cheaper or more convenient for the provider.

I don’t disagree with the idea that too many vitamins and really high levels can cause harm. I pee most of them out anyway, sometimes I worry if that’s my body way of telling me I’m overloading myself as well!

The books themselves talk about two different kinds of hunger, mouth hunger and (I think it’s called, it’s been awhile since I read the books) stomach hunger. Mouth hunger takes from social/emotional/environmental cues, and is usually fulfilled with junk food. Stomach hunger is the things your body actually NEEDS, and the idea of intuitive eating is that you will want to eat the things you are really in need of if you take out all of the social/emotional/environmental cues.

The best example I can give you? My recent obsession with oranges. I’ve had two already today and I would eat a third if I had the room for it after dinner. I’ve had a cough/sore throat/stuffy nose on and off for a few weeks now and because I believe in Intuitive Eating I think that my body is telling me to up my Vitamin C intake to fight things off.

Those are the kind of cravings that I think Intuitive Eating is talking about, not donuts and cheetos.

It is good to hear from all sorts of people. I hate taking things that aren’t in my food, even when I am supposed to. And I do really believe that my parents and their parents all produced amazing kids without the help of technology and all the vitamins. In my life I follow the idea of the fewer things the better, and I was really wondering if all those ideas about having to have a ton of this and a ton of that was true.

Thanks Jenna. Since That One will be around before we TTC, I will know if I should start taking the vitamins once we see pictures… *smile*

Yes it’s natural, but it’s serious stuff, and requires monitoring of TSH, T3 and T4 levels.

I looked up Symplex F to see if they say anything about the amount of hormone in there. I found something else. They state that it contains: Protomorphogen™ from the various glands. What the heck is that? Well, apparently it’s just a term trademarked and owned by Dr. Royal Lee (and from that point forward used by Standard Process Inc.)

So, Symplex F contains Proprietary Blend: 138 mg Magnesium citrate, bovine ovary PMG™ extract, bovine adrenal PMG™ extract, bovine pituitary PMG™ extract, and bovine thyroid PMG™ extract (processed to remove its thyroxine – Thank God!).

If you Google the term Protomorphogen you’ll get 13 pages of return. Curious, I then went to the gold standard site for medical research, PubMed, and entered it there – to find not a single entry. I’ve never had NO returns. Ever. (curiously, if you split the word into 2, proto & morphogen you get 126 returns, mostly relating to fruit fly research).

But the Magnesium is interestsing… Magnesium citrate is used frequently as a laxitive, only in higher doses. What is its purpose in this supplement? As far as I can tell it’s the only think you’re getting for your dollar and they don’t even mention its purpose on their site.

Okay totally kidding… so many people don’t and just aren’t woman enough to admit it. I didn’t take them until I found out I was having twins, and it was mainly because I could not possibly eat the extra 600 calories they wanted me to, but I had to try 3 different multivitamins before one didn’t make me sick! I ended up taking the womans one a day prenatal vitamin, a B supplement which contained all various B levels and only B vitamins, iron, and folic acid… I missed many doses and guess what, my babies are perfect

Maybe I’m not understanding the way it works correctly, but my first thought was that I probably wouldn’t be comfortable taking it while pregnant. I’m certainly *not* saying “you are harming your baby you irresponsible lady!”, and I know it was recommended by your midwife, who I’m sure is a very capable and awesome lady herself I’m just a little wary when we start talking about taking additional hormones from totally different animals during pregnancy, because I’ve never heard of that recommended.