A few weeks ago I wrote about T1′s delays in a rather, shall we say, anguished state. I’ve had lots of positive feedback, and more support than I could have hoped for. Thank you. I’m feeling much more at peace, and really don’t feel any worries. This is in part because the more I talked to women around me (physically around me, not just on the internet) the more I realized how common this is. In fact, every single highly-educated-household family at our church with a toddler, that has had a son tested, has their boy in therapy. Isn’t that insane? And these are mothers who stay at home with their children, so it can’t be blamed on crappy daycare. For some this is their first child, others their second or third, but all of them are boys and all have been diagnosed with a variety of delays.
Could it be the problem isn’t the boys, but the standard? Food for thought indeed. I’d have to see some pretty solid double-blind studies to convince me otherwise.
This is why I’m no longer worried. And why we are now treating his therapy as an opportunity to learn how to more effectively work and play with him.
To back up to my last post. He was diagnosed toward the beginning of October, and I had no idea how much everything was going to cost. When I asked the representative at Child and Family Connections she couldn’t really give me an answer (understandable, insurance is a mess). We were told he needed two therapists, two times per week, for an hour each. We knew it would cost us $30/month to be a part of the program, but what about the cost of the therapy sessions? $100 each? $200 each? More? To put it simply, spending thousands and thousands of dollars a year on therapy for our toddler didn’t seem necessary.
Yes, I said it. I was willing to take the bet that his lack of speech at 18 months wouldn’t determine whether he gets into Harvard*. “Speech delays” in toddlers (I’m not sure I’m even willing to call them that anymore), especially toddler boys, are just too common for me to think it’s a problem we need to be potentially sinking $5,000 or more into.
So I called my insurance to find out more about coverage. I was told (somewhat apologetically by the nice agent) that our insurance has no benefits for learning disabilities or developmental delays. Good thing I was no longer freaking out at this point because that is some pretty crappy coverage. I was annoyed, and left wondering how much we would be quoted for the therapy fees. I called the Child and Family Connections rep and she told me that it would be free. WHAT?!?! Yes, free. Apparently the state covers the cost of therapy when your insurance company won’t. This is the first clue that the state does NOT agree with my theories about delays and the sum cost of not doing therapy.
It took a few weeks to work out everything with our insurance (some forms were filled out incorrectly at first) but a month after my initial post T1 had his first speech therapy session. Somehow, we won the speech therapist lottery. This therapist is awesome and the perfect fit for us! She’s organized, worked out a plan with me at the first meeting, quickly found a set time that works for both of us, and asks me each week areas where he has made progress and the things we have worked on. At the end of each session, she gives me goals for the week.
She’s great, and I love the time with her, albeit maybe not for the reason you might think. Though T1 has started using more language, I’m not so sure I would say that three sessions with her is the reason he can now correctly use:
bubbles
bye-bye
shoes
choo-choo
mama (well, he’s close here, sometimes he points to himself and says mama, or points to TH)
nay-neh (naked)
ball
beh-beh (baby)
That’s all I can think of off the top of my head. Seems like a pitiful list for a 19 month old I know, but compared to a month ago I’m feeling like I’ve got a braniac on my hands. My child can tell me things like “neh neh“, which means “Take all my clothes off and put me in the bathtub so I can poop and cause you to freak out again and say icky icky icky. That’s one of my favorite moves.”
Anyway, I have no idea of knowing whether he would have picked those things up anyway. The only one we’ve worked on during our time with the speech therapist is choo-choo (I totally give her credit for that one). The rest seem to be things he has started using because of the repetition of daily life.
What I love about the therapy is that she has given me some key strategies for working with him on my own time. Using a puzzle and holding the pieces up to my mouth as I say the name of the animal, only giving him one block at a time and forcing him to say please/more (in sign language) if he wants another one, a whole new way to read a book with him (just asking him to point at specific characters/things in the book, not worrying about the words on the page). Each week I look forward to seeing what new toys she brings, and how she uses them. It’s been a fantastic experience.
Unfortunately working with the developmental therapist has not been quite as good for us. She’s older, lives really far out of town, and has been nearly impossible to pin down in regards to choosing a set date and time. I have a flexible schedule, but this doesn’t mean I like getting a phone call the morning of to ask if she can come. When she comes and spends an hour with us, it looks like little more than what any normal person does when playing with a toddler. Throwing a ball back and forth, playing with one of these, putting toys into a shape sorter, reading a book. The shape sorter is an example of an area where I really disagree with the way she does things, allowing him to control what shapes he uses and placating his oncoming tantrum by giving in when he lets her know he wants to do the circle instead of the triangle. Her personality and style weren’t a good fit for us, and I didn’t feel convinced that this was worth further draining of state resources. So I called the coordinator at Child and Family Connections and let her know we were done working with the developmental therapist at this time, and would reevaluate his progress at a later date if necessary. I just hope I don’t have to be the one to personally call the developmental therapist and tell her we don’t want her to come back, as that sort of thing makes me anxious.
I worry that I haven’t been clear in what I’m trying to say here (as so often happens). First, I’m suspect of the timeline that has been established for when certain milestones need to be met, specifically for boys. Also, we don’t like the specific developmental therapist that was assigned us, and have no desire to continue working with one at this time.
The speech therapist though? She is a gem. I would pay a lot of money to spend time watching her work with T1, not because I think he wouldn’t get into Harvard without her, but because she is showing me all these interesting and useful techniques for interacting with my son. I see new ways to focus his attention when working on a puzzle, how to turn it into a learning experience instead of me passively sitting by and clapping when he gets it right. Now I pick up the pieces, say the name of the animal, make the sound of the animal, hold it next to my face when I say it so he sees my lips move, make him say “please” before I give him the piece, and use lots of positive reinforcement when he chooses to put it in the correct spot. All of my children will benefit from my time spent with her.
A lot of people are going to strongly disagree with our approach to this. Maybe even members of our own family. I guess we’ll have to wait and see where he is in 5, 10, 15, 20, 25 years. As I’ve already come to realize during my short time as a parent, a lot of this journey is doing your research, discovering there is conflicting information, hedging your bets, and keeping your fingers crossed it works out in the end.
*I’m not specifically shooting to get T1 into Harvard. This is a phrase I use to communicate the idea that my goals for him are long term.
December 1st, 2011 on 8:52 am
I’m so glad the speech therapist is so wonderful!! It sounds like it’ll be beneficial to both of you to have her around. I hope he continues to improve with her help!
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December 1st, 2011 on 8:57 am
I’m curious why you didn’t ask the State for a new developmental therapist first before deciding it wasn’t worth it. As a (mental health) therapist myself, I know that chemistry between client/family and therapist is important so perhaps it was the developmental therapist’s style vs. developmental therapy in general? I certainly agree that we’re VERY VERY VERY hasty to diagnose children, especially boys and don’t even get me started on over medicating children but I’m just curious! No judgement here!
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Kelly Reply:
December 1st, 2011 at 11:36 am
That was my first thought too. Jenna, is there any way they can assign you a new therapist? Since the costs are covered, it seems worthwhile to fight for all the advantages your son can have during these crucial developmental years. Great that the speech therapist is wonderful though, that’s very exciting that you’re already seeing progress. It demonstrates how useful and beneficial this early intervention can be.
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Sarah Reply:
December 1st, 2011 at 5:41 pm
I’m new to your blog, but I’m a professional educator, and I was wondering the same thing. If the therapy is largely covered, why not? Even if the therapist is just “playing” with T1 (and there is a decent body of research suggesting the play therapy is very effective), any intensive one-on-one attention a child has with a caring adult is positive for development. More attention from more caring adults can only be positive for his development. It will take time to see results, probably months rather than years. Many children remain in early intervention therapies for a couple of years and show enormous gains. You may quibble with the diagnosis, and I’ll agree, they’re not always accurate-especially with quite young children-but if all you have to lose is a minor inconvenience in scheduling and an hour of your time, it seems that is a worthwhile investment. T1 is at a key developmental stage, and early intervention is invaluable to students. He won’t be able to undo your choices later. He has been entrusted to your care. Why not give him the best chance possible?
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December 1st, 2011 on 9:06 am
I have a cousin who used to work with an organization doing work on environmental toxins. She said that boys are particularly vulnerable to toxins which can cause things like autism and developmental delays. She definitely said some things that reinforce what you are saying - that delays are occurring at a frequency more noticeable in young boys, etc. The question is: are we moving the goalpost? Were boys able to meet these standards ten years ago, and now fewer of them are able to meet them? Are we looking at different things than we used to to diagnose delays? Or are things like electronic toys and TV causing more speech delays than they have in the past? (Because just because somebody is a stay at home parent doesn’t mean their kid doesn’t watch a ton of TV, etc. But I know you’ve done a lot of research on the effects of TV and whether there are any, and my evidence here is purely anecdotal so I’m not telling anybody how to parent, I’m just wondering if there is a correlation.) I don’t know, but it’s certainly an interesting question.
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jrm Reply:
December 1st, 2011 at 9:35 pm
Yeah sorry no. Hazardous chemicals don’t differentiate between boys and girls. Children vs adults yes. Generally because children are smaller the threshold at which they would have an adverse reaction GENERALLY is lower than adults but between gender, no. Children who might have less developed lungs, yes.
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Jingo Reply:
December 5th, 2011 at 4:35 am
She said “environmental toxins” not “hazardous chemicals” there is a huge difference. And it has been proven that some toxins affect males and females in different ways. One case of this is flouride which has been found to cause bone cancer in males but not in females. There was no need to be sarcastic or rude. Ellie was simply reiterating an idea she had heard about that she thought might have been useful and interesting to TW.
Back on topic: I definitely understand TW’s frustration about not being able to pin the therapist down for a set appointment (this would frustrate me immensely), but I do wonder if she should persevere and find out if it is possible to be assigned someone new. Even if she can’t be assigned someone new I’m sure as long as she keeps up this interaction with T1 his positive progression with language will continue.
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December 1st, 2011 on 9:08 am
I’m glad you like some aspects of his therapy and hope they conintue to go well.
I’m curious if you’re opinion of toys has changes since working with both therapists, since you mentioned they both used toys or puzzles in their activities.
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December 1st, 2011 on 9:09 am
I’ve been wondering about T1 after that last post and I’m so happy you found a good speech therapist! Please keep us updated on his progress - it sounds good so far!
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December 1st, 2011 on 9:10 am
This is really interesting, Jenna. You know my thoughts on differences in toddlers already, and I have to agree that little kids just grow at different rates. It sounds like your speech therapist is helping out a lot though, and you’re learning a lot from observing her also. Sorry it didn’t work out with the dev. therapist; I think if I was in your position I’d do the same as you in that regard.
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December 1st, 2011 on 9:16 am
I agree with you. I think people are quick to jump the gun to assign developmental traits to children. I have plenty of friends, especially ones that are teaching two languages, that have delayed speech, but I am so glad that the therapist is working out and that it is free — cheers to effective government programs.
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Jenna Reply:
December 1st, 2011 at 9:26 am
You have a new email address
. I had to approve your comment because it’s different.
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December 1st, 2011 on 9:22 am
I’m so glad you found such a wonderful speech therapist! It’s great that she has been able to make a connection with T1 AND you! Best wishes for continued progress.
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December 1st, 2011 on 9:29 am
Hi, long time reader (from your weddingbee days) but I’m not sure if I have ever commented before. I was wondering if you might be able to clarify the sentence where you say:
“And these are mothers who stay at home with their children, so it can’t be blamed on crappy daycare.”
I’m hoping that you mean A crappy daycare - a specific one that a certain child goes to, and not ALL daycare being crappy. I don’t want to assume what you mean, so I figured I’d ask.
I am the mother of 18 month old girl who is in day care, so I’m sure you can understand why I am commenting.
Glad to hear T1 is communicating. I know how milestone delays can be stressful.
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Gail Reply:
December 1st, 2011 at 10:29 am
At a good day care, or even at a middling one, kids get a lot more interaction (both from caretakers and their peers) than what T1 is getting. If other stay at home mothers are doing the same, that would explain why they are all behind.
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Kelly | Blushink Reply:
December 1st, 2011 at 12:40 pm
I think alot of SAHM (not everyone) think that they are much better at taking care of their children then a daycare would. Personally I believe that my son is thriving and learning a lot more at daycare then if I would of been a SAHM myself. I’m not saying that every SAHM doesn’t do a great job at educating their children but I don’t understand why working moms are very considerate of the job a SAHM does yet SAHMs think that daycare is the hell of the world. (again I’m generalizing)
I think ‘crappy daycare’ is extremely poor use of words and I think maybe it was written to strike up some controversy but from what I’m seeing in children in daycare, they actually learn quicker and talk faster due to the environment. So crappy.. I don’T know where that is founded. Was T1 ever in daycare for you to label it crappy?
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Brooke Reply:
December 1st, 2011 at 8:41 pm
I’m a WAHM (work at home mom), and I often wonder what the eff to do with my infant. We take a walk, read a book, and I try to get some work done in the process. But I’m not gonna lie, there are some fancy-schmancy daycares out there, even in my piddly little town. And since they go to school to learn how to encourage and engage babies and small children, I would think they’re all far more qualified than I. I really wish I could afford even part-time daycare, for all those benefits you stated.
I took “crappy daycare” to define the “mom-n-pop” out-of-the-home daycares by shady providers, like the one in Houston that burned down and killed children. That’s my personal skew on it. I think so highly of professional, qualified daycares though. I mean, they offer multiple language lessons! I could never offer my child that
Wish I was bilingual like you, Kelly
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Allison Reply:
December 1st, 2011 at 11:47 am
I’m fairly certain that when she says daycare, she means care during the day, not “daycare facilities outside of the home.”
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Christie Reply:
December 1st, 2011 at 1:19 pm
Actually, the comparison was drawn between SAHMs and daycare, so it would seem that’s exactly what she is referring to.
“And these are mothers who stay at home with their children, so it can’t be blamed on crappy daycare.”
I, like Jen, am also hoping she’s not generalizing that all daycares are crappy.
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Turtle Reply:
December 1st, 2011 at 1:42 pm
The daycare remark honestly seems like a blatant attempt on Jenna’s part to stir up controversy. It wasn’t relevant to the post and was worded too flippantly to be taken seriously. I enjoy this blog, but I think it’s clear that Jenna likes to stir the pot sometimes. I think that this remark is an example of lazy pot-stirring rather than some of the serious, challenging, and mainstream-defying conversations Jenna has provoked here.
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Marissa C Reply:
December 1st, 2011 at 2:05 pm
I’m going to guess it was a poor choice of words that she had no idea would cause so much controversy
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Frankie Reply:
December 1st, 2011 at 2:13 pm
I’m not sure that Jenna was implying that all daycares are crappy. I think that what she meant was that, all the children she was referring to are taken care of by different people, and not one (crappy or otherwise) daycare center so the delays are not neccessarily due to Environmental factors.
As someone who worked in a daycare for several years, I can say that I would be the first to be offended by a comment that suggests all day cares are crappy. That is in no way true. I cared deeply about the children I worked with and I was invested in their development, but not everyone who works a daycare feels that way. Some daycares are great, amazing even, full of wonderful caring people and others are not. I don’t think Jenna was generalizing that all daycares are bad, but it’s true that some are.
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Danielle Reply:
December 1st, 2011 at 7:45 pm
Maybe give her a little credit on this? It wasn’t a well phrased sentence or comparison for what I think she wanted to communicate, i.e. poor caregiving wasn’t an explanation for why all these kiddos were diagnosed as delayed. It’s just that it sounds like a hastily written thought more than an indictment against daycare of all kinds - and I say this as someone who provides day care for children.
I don’t mean it’s out of line to ask for clarification or to explain why an indictment against daycare (if this was one) is offensive, I just think those things would work better without insulting her or jumping down her throat.
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Anne Lee Reply:
December 1st, 2011 at 8:25 pm
I generally am not SUPER FAST to hop on the “defend Jenna” wagon, but I kind of feel like this entire thread is ridiculous. It appears to me that Jenna was saying that these kids were being taken care of by their own moms, so you can’t necessarily blame crappy daycare….not that all daycare in humanity sucks, but that these kids weren’t going to “El Nino Playplace” where the kid is thrown in front of Dora all day. I work full time, so I have other people watch my kid a time or two a week, and I don’t care WHO you are, but there is no daycare on earth that will love your child like the mother does. I don’t really think this was a dig at women who work outside the home at all, and don’t get me wrong, I think that Jenna does plenty of this, but I think this thread was a bunch of people looking to start a fight more than Jenna trying to be passive aggressive and get in a dig. I’m just sayin’……
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Jen Reply:
December 1st, 2011 at 8:45 pm
I’d definitely like to hear Jenna’s response to this thread. Hint hint.
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Kelsie Reply:
December 2nd, 2011 at 5:19 am
What’s up with all the Hispanic remarks associated with a “Crappy Daycare”?
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Sandra Reply:
December 2nd, 2011 at 10:17 am
Also wondering about this out-of-place implication that crappy daycares are Hispanic. o.O;
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LeiLani @ Elle Golden Photography Reply:
December 2nd, 2011 at 2:12 pm
Kelsie and Sandra,
That’s probably because a vast majority of the “crappy daycares” ARE Hispanic-run. I worked in news for quite some time and many of the major stories that came through the wires about daycare-gone-bad stemmed from a Hispanic household (some illegals who accepted cash only at a very low price but then stuffed them full of kids). I’m sure it has nothing to do with anyone being racist or such, just a sad but true observation. Stereotypes become stereotypes for a reason. I would just hope that anyone considering a daycare does their research on the facility and who runs it first, regardless of race.
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Sandra Reply:
December 2nd, 2011 at 2:19 pm
Source for this, or is it not based on some kind of study? Most of the substandard daycares I’ve seen are not actually run by professionals but instead are managed by one person essentially babysitting several children out of their home.
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LeiLani @ Elle Golden Photography Reply:
December 2nd, 2011 at 2:46 pm
Obviously not a scientific study, but over the course of a year reading wires from all over the country, that was the majority of what I saw. In no way does it mean ALL Hispanic-run daycares are “crappy” and in no way does it mean ALL daycares run by non-Hispanics aren’t substandard. And I completely agree with your comment on the 1 babysitter/several children thing. Many of those stories I saw were just that. It all really comes down to doing your homework and investing in a quality daycare with all the proper requirements if you choose to put your child in one. And the same goes with making sure your child receives adequate learning opportunities and social interactions if you choose to SAH. I was both a child of a stay at home mom up until 3.5 years of age and then entered a daycare. I needed speech therapy because I wasn’t pronouncing words right (found out it was a “highly positioned tongue”). I think I turned out alright.
I think the only way T1 wouldn’t turn out well is if Jenna didn’t care enough to seek help when she thought there was a problem.
So yeah, to sum it up, I’m seeing a lot of great discussion here.
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Sandra Reply:
December 2nd, 2011 at 2:20 pm
Also while I appreciate your input, I still hope the original commenter responds and I wish they had responded first because that can be quite insightful. And not in a good way normally.
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Anne Lee Reply:
December 2nd, 2011 at 3:31 pm
Sorry, I was at work. I actually had a very specific daycare in mind when I wrote that. It’s named almost exactly that, and, I’m sorry if it comes across racist (not who I am, but if that’s how it came across….sorry), but it literally appears to be THE WORST daycare on earth. I mean, I would have to hate my child to put him in that dump. Judgmental? Sure. But seriously, this hole is filthy, and falls into what I think could qualify as nothing other than “crappy daycare”.
Just to even it out- my white sister in law has decided to start a daycare. I think it’s terrifying, and I would pretty much eat my young before putting my kid there. And I’m sure they watch some stereotypically white show, too.
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December 1st, 2011 on 9:32 am
I’m glad you feel the speech therapy is a positive experience. I’m just continually amazed by the crazy standards established for toddlers, as to what they should be doing and when it needs to be done. I’m a firm believer that some kids develop more quickly with their physical skills and that they will lag in other areas for short periods of time. My youngest (of three) is still mostly babbling, but she is the most dexterous and fearless in her Gymboree classes.
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December 1st, 2011 on 9:48 am
I’m glad the speech therapy is going so well! Like I mentioned in my last comment on this subject, I love therapy for Eli! Kind of like you said, I just love watching their approach with Eli, and so many things seem like, “no duh” concepts but I just hadn’t thought of doing them myself, so I appreciate someone enlightening me
. And it’s amazing to watch your kids progress in areas that they previously were struggling.
Also, I kind of agree about occupational therapy. We did it for a little while and it just seemed like an hour of play time., which I wasn’t opposed to because I liked his therapist and it was something fun to do, but I’m not sure it actually helped all that much in the short time we did it.
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December 1st, 2011 on 10:01 am
It’s interesting about the delays in boys. It is what you would expect, though, because boys/males are more biologically fragile (die more easily, have more health problems, etc). Compared to girls, boys are significantly over-represented in both the gifted/very intelligent population, and in those with low IQs. (Of course boys also mature more slowly-they don’t even reach full development until 25!-but I am assuming the therapists take this into consideration.)
I don’t have the expertise necessary to know if your decision is a correct one (though as T1′s mother you have the most information, which would lead me to assume your decisions are the best ones in general). If I was you, I wouldn’t feel comfortable with opting out of the therapy (because on the off chance it was necessary and I didn’t use it, I wouldn’t be able to handle the guilt), even though you’re right there’s a extremely good chance it is useless or not needed.
However, since it sounds like the developmental therapist was just doing play/enrichment activities with T1, couldn’t you set aside specific times and do the same thing? You might do a better job anyway, since you know him and his interests better. You could do things to boost intellectual capacity like expose him to new experiences (museum/zoo visits, hiking, exposure to foreign cultures), read together, create art together: just like regular parenting but on a schedule, with blocked out time so that you’ll have time to focus. Mostly “intellectual stimulation” just means constant exposure to new things and the opportunity to explore them in a focused way.
Thanks for posting about this BTW, especially considering the negative feedback you’ve received. I find it very helpful to keep in mind (because even though right now my daughter has no issues you never know what will crop up).
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Senora H-B Reply:
December 1st, 2011 at 10:21 am
Grace, I’m filing this away for my future offspring. Well said. I can’t even imagine how overwhelming it is to have a child. Reminding myself to take time out of a crazy day to just play and do enrichment activities with my children will surely be helpful. I mean, I have to block out time to remember to eat after all….
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Megan Reply:
December 1st, 2011 at 3:37 pm
What a great comment and suggestion. I tend to lean with some others that think it would be worth trying a different developmental therapist before quitting that type of therapy entirely, but if not, I think Grace makes a really smart suggestion to set aside the specific time and focus solely on “play” with T1.
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December 1st, 2011 on 10:05 am
I think your last sentence sums it all up - isn’t that all we can do in parenting and life in general? We research, we prioritize, we hedge, we reassess… endless cycle that is life. Well done keeping a good head about all of this!
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December 1st, 2011 on 10:23 am
Although I’m sure you didn’t even think when you wrote, “so it can’t be blamed on crappy daycare” that it would be offensive, it is. As a Early Childhood Educator who went to school to learn how to do teach and play with 0-5′s, I’m offended. I think you might want to seriously think about what you wrote. The odds are high that most daycare providers know how to interact more appropriately with babies/toddlers than you do. I’m really trying to bite my tongue so that this can be a helpful discussion and not a hateful comment made to make you feel bad. Sometimes daycare is better than a stay at home parent.
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Courtney Reply:
December 1st, 2011 at 11:10 am
I know that my daughter probably got a lot more attention when she was in daycare than when she’s home with me! The teachers/providers aren’t checking e-mail, doing chores, etc. while they watch her!
I found that my daughter reached her milestones a lot faster when she was in daycare. It wasn’t a fancy school-type daycare- just an in home daycare run by a mom and her 3 daughters, one of whom was an Early Ed teacher.
I think the combination of multiple adults to interact with, seeing all the other kids- most of them older and doing things she’d like to be able to do- really encouraged/pushed her to try new things.
Once she started staying at home with my husband, her progress really slowed. however, when he started making an effort to take her to group activities- even just the play area at the mall- her progress picked up.
I think at home she’s complacent to just do her own thing and doesn’t realize her potential (and my husband and I apparently weren’t motivating her much either). But when she’s out and about with other kids and other adults she sees what those kids are capable of and what those adults expect of her and she rises to the challenge.
Finances being what they are right now (my husband is staying home with her because he’s not working full time right now), we’re just taking advantage of all the free local activities (story times, library activities, play groups, etc.). However, next year when my daughter is 2, I really hope to start her in a pre-K type program. I think she’d really benefit from interacting with other adults/teachers, being around other kids, and generally being out of her comfort zone- away from home and her dad.
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Jackie Reply:
December 1st, 2011 at 4:13 pm
I agree with the comment about day care teachers not being distracted. I know a lot of women think that day care means their kids will be lost in the shuffle, but as someone who worked in a daycare/baby sat my way through high school and college, I can assure you I paid way more quality attention to kids at the day care. I wasn’t cooking dinner, on the computer, reading a book, cleaning, watching TV, etc. Working at a day care really calmed my fears about sending a future child to a day care (though I would carefully screen first!) They’ve shown now that kids in day care are no worse off than those at home.
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December 1st, 2011 on 10:26 am
I agree with your approach and that boys are slower than girls developing speech in general, even more so when they are bilingual. All of my friends with little boys who had friends with little girls the same age stressed about their boys not talking in that 1.5-2.5 age range where the girls start talking and full sentences come outs and their boys are still on single words. They all caught up it just takes a bit more time for boys!
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December 1st, 2011 on 10:35 am
My nephew didn’t talk regularly until he was well over 2 years old. He’s not slow or mentally challenged. Just lazy. His parents never made him talk to them, so he just didn’t. It wasn’t until he spent more time away from his parents that he had to start using words to get what he needed. T1 spends so much time with just you and TH that he probably communicates with you in many other ways that you’re not taking into consideration here. Just like his “neh neh” translates to a full sentence for you-he’s doing what he needs to do to get what he needs and wants.
Props to you for having the strength and conviction to share about this.
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December 1st, 2011 on 10:45 am
The work of a developmental therapist looks a lot like “playing” - that doesn’t mean your dev. therapist wasn’t “effective” or wasn’t working well with T1. Delays aren’t cured overnight - they usually take well over a year of behavioral intervention.
T1′s delays now, if not effectively mediated, very well could affect his outcomes in school and later on in life. I’m not saying this to shame you - if you truly didn’t connect with *this particular dev therapist*, that’s definitely a personal decision. But child experts don’t just make up milestones because they feel like it - early intervention, if a delay is observed, is critical.
I’m really glad T1 will continue seeing a speech therapist, but please do not discount the important work of developmental therapy. He deserves someone to move heaven and earth for him to make sure he is well-prepared for kindergarten - a delay could seriously derail his outcomes in school once you get to that point.
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Kate Reply:
December 1st, 2011 at 12:11 pm
I have an LCSW and MA in Special Education and I couldn’t agree more. I respect that Jenna may not like the style of the this dev therapist, especially around scheduling, but “playing” is the work of the dev therapist. Also, as far as your difficulty with her “giving in” to T1 when he’s frustrated—that’s SO important! Frustration is actually one of the #1 precursors for behavioral issues and learning issues. He should not be frustrated at all. Challenged to attempt to place the shapes in the correct slots, ABSOLUTELY, but when he shows signs of deeper frustration, it would be bad practice on the part of the therapist to continue with him in that state. Also, at 18 months, every child is just discovering shapes, he’s not even delayed in this milestone if he struggles. Please don’t frustrate him!
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Sophia Reply:
December 1st, 2011 at 1:55 pm
I do agree with this- much of what child psychologists/child development therapists do does look, from the outside, as “playing” or perhaps “pointless”- however, it does serve a purpose. I’m not speaking to whether or not T1 needs a development therapist or not, but I do think that sometimes people tend to dismiss pre-school teachers, development specialists, child psychologists a little too quickly because it doesn’t look like “serious work” is being done. It just has to be done so differently with children, that so much of it looks like it’s “just” playing.
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Jane Reply:
December 1st, 2011 at 6:14 pm
I have to agree with this as well-I generally love your thoughtful approach to parenting, but I do want to chime in with my thoughts about this, because I think it’s an important issue that isn’t discussed much. (Just as background, I’m a former preschool teacher with an MA in Child Development who is working towards my LCSW degree.) Kids T1′s age don’t need to be frustrated further by play/educational activities-they are frustrated all the time! It’s really important for kids (little kids, big kids) to be able to feel like they have control over some areas of their lives, and something like choosing the shape *he* wants is a great example of that. He may not get to control what he eats, or when he goes to bed, or what his day looks like, or whether he is able to open a drawer and take something out, because he’s a kid and adults control most of those things (and some things are just hard for things to do, which is frustrating), so giving him some agency and some sense of control could actually have a great effect on behavioral issues-I’ve seen it happen!
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December 1st, 2011 on 10:57 am
I’m so glad it all worked out! Back when we had our pediatrician recommend getting our son evaluated for speech therapy I ultimately did it not because I worried about my son (like you, I don’t think developmental evaluations are perfect) but because I figured the therapist would be able to teach ME how to interact with my son better. And thankfully we had an amazing one too. It was also recommended that we have a developmental therapist; that was a joke. My son’s first session with her she told us he was WAY ahead of what the paperwork claimed he was (and that he basically didn’t need it). Which did not surprise me ONE BIT because 1. My son is EXTREMELY stubborn and would not sit and cooperate with complete strangers as they tried to test him and 2. He’s also pretty shy and I knew going in there was no way he would talk to them, making them have to put in the evaluation he had no words or skills. We ended up moving just a month after he started speech therapy and had only one developmental therapy session, and once we were settled into our new area I didn’t see any need to start up therapy again as his speech EXPLODED with the move. I think it was due in large part to his little brother being born just a few days before we moved. I guess he decided since he was a big brother it was time to use all the words he’d been holding in.
Anyway, it sounds like T1 is doing great! I’m sure he’ll be headed to Harvard in no time:)
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December 1st, 2011 on 11:01 am
You mentioned some really interesting things that I think I might touch on on my blog!
My mom is the director of a non-profit that focuses on teaching people to read to kids (parents and educators)- who knew it was something we had to be taught? I think these things used to be more “natural” because we lived in community groups and we saw people interacting with kids more.
I think there is only one book we ‘read’ to my son, the rest we “play with”. Otherwise we point out the pictures, make noises, and use words he knows. He won’t pay attention if we actually “read” it. But, if we do it this way (the way your therapist suggested), he is a total book-aholic!
We are so lucky to have an early childhood expert in our family (and she lives upstairs) - but there is so much she’s taught us about play and interaction. You are so lucky to have these resources for free!
Anyone interested in more ways to help your kid read and interact can check out their website:
http://www.rarbayarea.org/home/blog/
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December 1st, 2011 on 11:10 am
I’m glad I’m not the only one offended by the crappy daycare comment. You have a tendency to belittle daycares and working mothers. (Although you say you’re not anti-working mom/day care, your other words speak volumes.) Did you stop to think that the common denominator in all those boys from church was stay-at-home mothers? After reading your blog for a while, it doesn’t seem like T1 gets much interaction with anyone other than you and TH. That would be a huge red flag to me if any delays were apparent in my children.
I know plenty of stay-at-home mothers who do not have children with delays, so I’m not at all saying that is the only reason.
The things you mentioned your speech therapist doing seem like such simple, common sense things that I (and our daycare teachers) have done with my daughter since she was very young. While I do agree that perhaps the standards have changed, I find it odd that you deny the research of professionals who have worked long and hard to find their results after doing a very short-sighted study of your own. It seems as though you’re quick to pick up on anything that will shift blame to someone else.
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December 1st, 2011 on 11:20 am
I relate to your situation in that I find information everywhere dictating certain milestones for babies and toddlers, and my 18 month old certainly does not meet all of them, but excels in others. He’s picked up speech at the same rate as P, and we have used no intervention. I wonder, as you do, if P’s speech “progress” is truly attributable to the therapy. Personally, I find this practice of milestones to be caviling. Perhaps I take issue with this practice because I come from a family of 7 children and we all met different milestones at different times, each of us being very “delayed” in some area. However, we’ve grown into a very athletic and intellectual bunch. Now, I don’t have any studies or research to back my “theory”, just generations of life experience who remind me to stop nit-picking my son and just to enjoy him (not a comment on you or your relationship with P, Jenna).
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December 1st, 2011 on 11:23 am
It seems a shame to give up developmental therapy just because of a bad experience with one therapist- especially since it’s free! Perhaps you could call and request another therapist?
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December 1st, 2011 on 11:35 am
I am so glad T1 is doing so well
That is wonderful to hear.
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December 1st, 2011 on 11:41 am
I have three quick comments:
1) I’m glad the speech therapist is so wonderful – I hope T1 continues to make great progress with her. Being able to communicate, even that small amount more, must make things so much less frustrating for the three of you.
2) If the state is paying for your developmental therapist, why didn’t you ask for another one? Usually they will provide someone else if the interpersonal relationship isn’t working, which sounds like is the biggest problem with your developmental therapist. Maybe someone else would be able to explain to you what they are doing with T1, even though it “only” looks like play. Toddlers learn through play and repetitive behaviour…just a thought.
3) Your comment about “crappy daycare” really bothers me. Not only does it paint all daycares in a negative light, but it casts judgment on parents who chose, for whatever reason, to put their children in out-of-home care. Your posts talks about making the right choice for your family and you have asked before for readers not to judge your choices. Don’t you think you should extent that same respect to your readers’ choices?
That’s not to say that there are not some incredibly horrible daycares out there, but to group them all in such a negative way is wrong. I don’t think for a minute that daycare is the best choice for every family, but for some it is and for others it is the only choice if the family is going to be (even close to) financially stable.
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Kate Reply:
December 1st, 2011 at 12:15 pm
You know, I used to have issues with day care. Then my niece and nephew went to licensed day care with people who held degrees in early childhood ed. They have two loving parents, who were teachers, and couldn’t afford to stay home. However, they get a lot of one on one time with parents in morning, afternoons, and evenings. Anyway, those two kids are thriving at very young ages and HIGHLY verbal. They also self potty trained because they wanted to be like the “big kids” at day care. I’m not saying this is everyone’s experience. Kids learn and develop at many different rates and there are crappy, unlicensed, understaffed day cares. But the good ones? oh, they can be really good!
It’s great that Jenna can afford to stay home but I think making assumptions about what day care provides or does to a child is bad form.
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December 1st, 2011 on 11:45 am
“In fact, every single highly-educated-household family at our church with a toddler, that has had a son tested, has their boy in therapy. Isn’t that insane?”
To me, this sentence suggests that each of these parents saw an issue with their sons, so they had them tested. If that is true, it’s not really that surprising that each of them is in therapy, right?
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December 1st, 2011 on 12:39 pm
I like this post, and I like the discussion. I’ve had two of three kids evaluated though they didn’t/haven’t yet needed physical therapy. What I LOVED was how the evaluation teams both taught me how to motivate my kids to want to move and use their bodies. Similar to the way the speech therapist is teaching you to interact and speak with T1 in a way he responds to. I love that parents have resources like therapists to improve their parenting, whether or not the kids is involved in care out of the home. My first two need social therapy, anyone know about how I can find that? Preschool seems to be supplying some of that need, as in teaching/reinforcing social cues and acceptable behaviors.
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December 1st, 2011 on 12:56 pm
As a medical professional who works with young children, this post forced me to comment, without judgement, but with concern. firstly, what qualifications or professional knowledge DO YOU HAVE that entitles you to question the standards set for achieving milestones, or experiencing developmental delays? Tittle tattle with the other stay at home moms after church who feed you ignorant information does not lead to informed decision making. secondly, it would appear you disregarded the services of the developmental therapist based on the fact you didn’t like the goals she set. no offence, but whether you liked them or not is not hugely relevant for your son, what matters is a qualified health professional assessed and deemed them important FOR HIM NOT YOU. and finally, as a side note, one of the proposed reasons behind the significantly high numbers of children presenting with Developmental Delay is that parents nowadays spend less time than ever before interacting with their children, and more time on the internet. please keep up with the rest of your sons therapy, and good luck.
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Rachel Reply:
December 2nd, 2011 at 1:08 am
I think it is incredibly important to question the standards set and the experts in charge. That’s how we learn and grow and make informed decisions. I would be more concerned about the people who don’t question anything because they assume the experts know everything there is to know. There wouldn’t be a medical profession let alone advances in science and medicine. You don’t need qualifications or professional knowledge to recognize a problem or pattern. Sometimes it makes it easier to see that a problem exists.
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marge Reply:
December 2nd, 2011 at 12:35 pm
I completely disagree with you. The experts are experts for a reason. The standards are in place because the experts worked hard, excelled in their field and have the knowledge to set those standards. I have no problem with anyone questioning an experts decision, but in no way should you denounce that opinion unless you have the qualifications, or experience to back it up (which that wife clearly does not). And whilst you may not need a professional qualification to recognize a problem such as delay, I’m afraid you do need that qualification to determine and diagnose that it actually does exist.
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December 1st, 2011 on 12:56 pm
I would like to add (to my comment) that I think boys tend to be a little slower at learning. My son is 16.5 months and not speaking yet. Probably because I speak to him in english and the hubs in french, but I’m not worried about that really.
I think it all depends on how you feel as a parent. If you think you/daycare is not the problem for the lack of speech but rather your child’s normal development then I wouldn’t worry about it (unless, obviously you have reason to believe that he has an attention deficit leading to other medical problems. )
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Brooke Reply:
December 1st, 2011 at 8:50 pm
Everything I’ve read states that any child (male or female) will begin speaking later in a dual-language home. I reallllly wish we had a second language to teach our daughter. I plan to start signing with her, and since my sister is fluent in ASL, maybe we can pick that up?
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December 1st, 2011 on 12:58 pm
My two boys, now 16 and 14, both had vocabularies of a few hundred words at 18 months. At that age, both knew colors and shapes, and my older son recognized and could name all letters (uppercase and lowercase) and numerals. Older son was reading at 3, younger son at 4. If either of them had been where T1 seems to be at 18 months, I would be beyond concerned…I would be frantic, and I would be taking the advice of experts seriously. If you didn’t click with the developmental therapist, that’s valid, but FIND ANOTHER THERAPIST. You never, ever get back the time that you may be losing now.
Incidentally, add me to the list of people offended by your phrase “crappy daycare.” My kids went to a church-run daycare for 20 - 25 hours a week, where they were loved, taken care of, and got to play with other children. A good daycare is much, much better for a child than being ignored at home.
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December 1st, 2011 on 1:13 pm
I’ve been anxiously awaiting this post and I’m so glad to read about your experience.
I am not in the same position you are - a SAHM with a male child who has been diagnosed with delays - and I couldn’t be more opposite than you being a working mom with a female child with zero diagnoses of delays who is in a full-time pre-K program. I can appreciate your perspective and justifications for your decisions no matter the differences though.
Regarding your daycare comment - I don’t take offense to it because I don’t believe you meant it to be offensive or judgmental. Sure it can be viewed as insensitive on your part towards your readers who do opt to be working and utilizing daycare but I feel like some of the offense that occurs at large these days comes from hypersensitivity. Everything and everyone is so easily offended. Whether you are a working mom or a SAHM the “mommy wars” are brutal but so many times because we treat them as such. We (as a whole) are careless with our comments in how we dole them out or how we receive them. For this reason, I give you the benefit of the doubt that you weren’t trying to be offensive. Many times I’ve read things you write here and am surprised at how much flack you take for things you write and often I go back and reread what you write over and over again in order to understand the perspectives of others. (I am a teacher who has taught on a number of different developmental levels so it’s always important to me to learn how other people receive information whether I agree with it or not.)
Regarding your dismissal of your therapist based on the play therapy - I totally understand where you are coming from because I was of your school of thought until just a few weeks ago. My daughter (3.5 and has been in full-time daycare/preschool since part of her infancy) was recently moved from one preschool to another based upon numerous issues my husband unique to the place she was in. We were very blessed to find a new school that has everything on our “wish list” for a place for her and in the process of enrolling her there, we were given an immense amount of material that supported their curriculum and instruction choices. One of the items was a long document detailing the importance of early childhood education being oriented and informed by the act of playing. (I would be glad to forward this to you if you’d like!) It was only two pages long but completely changed my mind about how important it is that my child play every day. They defined things that I wouldn’t have thought of as play. Also, before my teaching career, I worked at a large NPO called Kennedy Krieger Institute (look it up - it’s a pretty remarkable place!) doing insurance case management and macro-level intake management and a huge part of their therapeutic approaches are based in teaching a child to learn how to play and do it independently.
I encourage you to reconsider the stance that you’ve assumed. Playing is important and essential to a child’s development no matter if they are delayed, average, or advanced.
I know for myself I’m not classically trained as an early childhood educator so I very easily respect and defer to their expertise - with the exception of extreme circumstances like that which led my husband and I to put our daughter in a new preschool. As a teacher of school-aged to high school students, I know that I have experience and understanding in my subject area that my colleagues and the parents of my students don’t have. When people discount this plain and simple fact, they only do a disservice to what goes on in my classroom, the relationship I have with the families I serve, and the incredible investment that I (or my colleagues) have made to be in a field and profession that does nothing short of put others first on a regular basis. For you to not acknowledge the value of developmental/play therapists and dismiss them (especially based on personality differences or your concerns of their professionalism) could definitely be a detriment to your child and your family as a whole as it affects your parenting philosophy and what you teach them of the people and world around them. The toddler and early childhood years provide a tremendous foundation for the rest of their lives if only they are regarded as a time for such a thing.
/end soapbox
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Kelly | Blushink Reply:
December 1st, 2011 at 2:21 pm
I can agree that people tend to be overally sensitive about parenting and the “wars” between sahms and working moms is never ending. My comment (I had two) was to explain that as much as the post is about her son and therapy and the development, the use of the term “it can’t be blamed on crappy daycare.” Was wrong to say.
I’m sure she meant “it can’t be blamed on “A” crappy daycare. which in that case would make sense, but clearly that wasn’t the intention.
I do agree, that some things are over rated and I’m sure T1 is not “as slow” as the doctors think. I mean, why is it that some kids walk at 10 months and others at 15? The same applied for talking, so I don’t know why people are so stressed about it.
I think, that interacting with other children is vital for a childs development and maybe the reason why she felt awful about the “diagnosis” by the doc is because he doesn’t interact as much as he should? I’m not saying theres a good way or a bad way to go about it and each child is different… but I think trying something different from your current routine, might help the “problem” (though I personally think there isn’t)
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Kelly | Blushink Reply:
December 1st, 2011 at 2:27 pm
I meant I personally don’t think theres a problem. TI is fine! (but im no doctor)
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josie Reply:
December 2nd, 2011 at 1:01 am
If you’re not a doctor and you haven’t assessed T1 then you probably shouldn’t say he’s fine. Just a thought. How many times has Jenna said you only see a small part of their life and not to judge from the posts? But this is a happy judgement validating her so it’s probably ok to draw a conclusion you have no business making b/c it will make her feel better.
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December 1st, 2011 on 1:28 pm
My son went to an absolutely wonderful daycare that I felt very comfortable with. That being said, I’m so glad to have him home with me now. We tried out one daycare that was much cheaper, but it was CRAPPY. Some daycares, maybe not most, but some, are crappy with children being set in front of tvs all day or in exersaucers all day or spoken to harshly or disrespectively. I took Jenna’s comment to mean that none of the children of her mom friends were in crappy daycares-like the type I mentioned.
As for all of the comments that suggest Jenna has no right to follow her intuition as a mother and disregard some advice from “professionals” . . . I think that is garbage. My son is my child and I get to decide whether any authority figure knows best so long as I am not putting him in immanent danger. Reasonable people can disagree about the best diets, medical procedures/treatments, type of day care or education, and the list goes on and on. It sickens me that just because you have a degree you think you know what is best for someone you have never met. I have plenty of degrees, but I certainly don’t think it entitles me to parent other people’s children.
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December 1st, 2011 on 1:44 pm
My youngest nephew had the same developmental problems. His parents couldn’t afford speech thereapy so they went without it. I’m happy to say that he turned 3 in October and is now a little jabber box! lol. For the longest time, I kept saying that I know he can talk…it’s almost like he just wouldn’t do it. He would rather make faces and grunting sounds. Then, almost overnight, he did a complete 180. It’s like a switch was flipped. You would never have guessed that he ever had a problem.
I really think it’s something with boys. Girls seem to advance so fast with their speech, and I think boys are being held to the same standard. good luck with T1!!! I know he’ll be fine
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December 1st, 2011 on 1:56 pm
Thank you for this post, I’ve been wondering how things were going.
The thing that leapt out at me in this post was
“In fact, every single highly-educated-household family at our church with a toddler, that has had a son tested, has their boy in therapy. Isn’t that insane?”
I agree with Rachel W, there are a few reasons that this could be and it may not be problems with the standard - to me it would suggest people are slow to notice problems with their children, especially if they are not often around other children to compare* and only get their children tested when the delay is significant - therefore if you get to the stage where a child is being tested they are likely to already be in need of therapy.
I know you like to read into the studies and science behind these decisions, which I think is great, but be aware that there are many badly done studies out there and it’s easy to find one to support any point of view. This means you can’t trust information that references scientific articles unless you read the article itself and assess its quality, something that takes quite a lot of skill. I guess what I’m saying here is the experts in the field will have the skills to take all the research in this area, assess it and use it to inform treatment of their patients.
That is not something you can do without extensive study - so I’m really saying trust your experts! (Background info - I’ve got a PhD in microbiology, so while I know nothing about child development I am well aware of the huge volume of research done in these fields and how it can be conflicting and of varied quality).
I hope the speech therapist continues to be amazing and you find it a rewarding experience. Best of luck!
*Just to clarify for everyone - I don’t mean compare one child directly with another, obviously they all develop at different rates; but if you don’t have a lot to do with children then you would be less aware of what is normal and therefore less likely to notice a problem.
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Stefanie Reply:
December 1st, 2011 at 4:05 pm
Thank you for posting the bit about research. I was just having a conversation about this with my husband the other night. He had looked up the number of journals in which people can publish worldwide, and it’s an astonishing number. Essentially, no matter how poor the research is, a person or lab can most likely find some journal that will publish their work. This is unfortunate, because then the general public is lead to believe that just because the findings were published in a journal, then the study was sound and the results were valid, which isn’t necessarily true. Research is a much more complex and complicated thing than most people realize if they aren’t researchers themselves. No, you don’t need a fancy degree to be able to research a topic, but you also need to be able to do more than find a study published in a journal and accept it at face value. If you do that, then you’ll be able to find a study to support literally any side of the argument.
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Kat Reply:
December 1st, 2011 at 4:18 pm
Yes, It was quite depressing when I realised that ANYTHING can get published somewhere and everyone looks around to find the research that supports what they wanted to say anyway. It’s also not an easy thing to determine how good the work published in a particular journal is. There are things like the impact factor which can help out, but what these mean depends things like on how specialised a topic is.
So basically people are experts in an area for a reason!
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Zoe Reply:
December 1st, 2011 at 6:14 pm
yes, this is true. I work in a lab and have seen many of the grad students do journal article presentations…it seems that they are all taught to include a “caveats” section in their review, explaining what they think the paper failed to address or other issues they had with the data itself. rarely is a paper ever perfect :T
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Senora H-B Reply:
December 1st, 2011 at 6:34 pm
In order to find the best research, Jenna would need to make sure the journals are blind peer-reviewed, but even then there can still be a lot of bias. In conducting my own research, I’ve made a lot of mistakes. I’ve also learned that it is VERY easy to make your results fit your desired outcome.
It has literally taken me years to understand how to read and question a research article. During my first few years of graduate school, I had to rely on my peers and my professors’ interpretation of research until I could fully understand methodology, statistical analysis, and draw my own conclusions from a given study. I also understand now that there are many and varied conclusions that can be drawn from a single study or experiment.
Like Zoe said, good research will talk about how the design was flawed (because it always is), to what populations the research can be generalized (this is crucial), etc.
In my field, there are journals that are highly regarded because they have rigorous standards, blind peer review, and in-house research design and statistical analysis reviewers. There are also MANY MANY journals that are not highly regarded because they lack these things and, in some cases, will publish pretty much anything. And then there are people who self-publish, publish in conference proceedings, and other places that don’t have blind peer review. Without being an expert in a field, I can’t tell you what a reliable journal is. I couldn’t tell Kat what a quality journal is in her field and I doubt she could tell me what a quality journal is in mine (linguistics).
I guess what I’m saying is, an expert is an expert. I’d be really wary about ignoring the advice of someone who has extensive experience and expertise in a given field. A second opinion? Sure.
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Shanna Reply:
December 1st, 2011 at 9:56 pm
Yes. I agree that it takes a lot of dedicated training to be able to really do research. It’s so easy to find conflicting research and the hard part is deciding what is legit and what is not, and then seeing whose argument is better objectively. When someone pointed this out on Jenna’s formspring, I was really dismayed and disgusted by her response which was along the lines of “Ewww, you’re so elitist.” It’s good to educate yourself but not if you’re getting it from uneducated sources.
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Rachel Reply:
December 2nd, 2011 at 1:29 am
Considering who I know (including myself) who have been called on as experts in their fields of study, I would never trust the opinion of experts. Not to dismiss my education and experience but I will continue to question, research, and rely on my instincts instead of blindly assuming the experts know what they are doing. For example, I have a friend who is in the bottom of her class in her surgical rotation. I would not want her cutting me open and I would not want to rely on someone’s ‘expertise’ not realizing they were “2.0 and good to go.”
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Senora H-B Reply:
December 2nd, 2011 at 5:57 am
Rachel, I agree that I probably wouldn’t want your friend cutting into me for surgery, but I don’t think I’d just dismiss her opinion that I needed the surgery in the first place. I would certainly seek a second (or third, or fourth) opinion from other surgeons before I decided whether or not to do the surgery.
The point I was trying to make above was that the research articles themselves can be faulty. Blindly trusting those would be a mistake. An expert opinion is still just an opinion.
I definitely would never dismiss instincts either. The vast majority of what has been investigated in my field has come about because people (linguists and non-linguistics alike) noticed patterns and had instincts about language. Sometimes they were wrong and sometimes they were right.
If anything, my education has taught me to question, research, and rely on my instincts more than ever before.
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Senora H-B Reply:
December 2nd, 2011 at 6:03 am
I should add to the last part of my comment. I still believe an expert is an expert. However, seeking multiple opinions from experts and doing your own research is absolutely the right thing to do (in my opinion, haha).
The point I was trying to make with my comment above was that the research is often very flawed (whether it’s design, statistical analysis, or even faulty reporting of the results).
Bottom line: be careful where you go for research reports.
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December 1st, 2011 on 2:04 pm
I’m not a parent, but my school of thought would be that I would still do the developmental therapy (even if I had to pay for it, but especially if it’s free) just in case. It certainly can’t harm him if he truly has no delays, and whether he has delays or not it will certainly help him either way. I think you may just have not clicked with that particular therapist, and that’s totally normal. I had to go through three counselors before I finally found one, and then I *loved* my weekly therapy sessions (prior to that, I hated them and stopped/started much needed counseling twice over a period of 2 years).
Since the state is paying for it, and since they don’t just hand out money for free unless they deem it is really necessary, I would (personally) probably try to get another developmental therapist. As I and several others noted upthread, however, so much of what early childhood therapists/educators can be easily dismissed as pointless, or “just” playing, because it is so targeted to the things that help children at that age. Others have mentioned it, but play is a crucial element of child development, and by playing with T1 the dev. therapist is trying to suss out areas of strengths/concerns in a non-threatening, enjoyable way.
Either way, I’m thrilled the speech therapist is working out and I do think you made the right decision in honoring the fact that the dev. therapist just wasn’t your style.
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December 1st, 2011 on 2:10 pm
The daycare jabs seem like Jenna’s attempt to elevate herself, because despite the fact that she’s a SAHM (the allegedly “good” kind of mom), she is not providing the stimulating environment that’s provided by good daycare centers. It’s clear the only thing she knows about daycare if what she’s been told by her conservative community. But as this blog demonstrates, home with mom all day is not necessarily the best place for baby. T1 probably loved getting some stimulating attention from that woman.
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Marissa C Reply:
December 1st, 2011 at 2:49 pm
That’s an awfully biased thing to say based off one post. Or even based on the entire sum of this blog.
Not to mention it’s downright rude.
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Cranium Reply:
December 1st, 2011 at 2:53 pm
In what was is it “biased?” My comment is based on what I’ve read on this blog over the course of months-from what Jenna herself portrays here.
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Marissa C Reply:
December 1st, 2011 at 5:10 pm
I’m sorry-biased is the wrong word. I couldn’t think of the word I was looking for when I wrote this-presumptuous was the word I was looking for.
“despite the fact that she’s a SAHM (the allegedly “good” kind of mom), she is not providing the stimulating environment that’s provided by good daycare centers”
That is most definitely a presumption. And I still think it’s a rude one.
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December 1st, 2011 on 2:18 pm
I’m surprised you were not already doing at least some of what the speech therapist showed you. It’s fairly basic early childhood education stuff. I would get some books on early childhood development so you can learn how to interact with your son.
And maybe it’s from being raised by a social worked but I thought everyone knew early intervention was paid for by the state. Once a child turns three they receive it from their school district.
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Keri Reply:
December 1st, 2011 at 4:58 pm
Thanks for making that point Amy - that school districts offer many different programs to young (younger than school-age) children too. I didn’t know that until my son began stuttering and needed speech therapy. He was about 3 at the time and not only did the school provide it for him, they also provided transportation for him as well (he was in daycare).
I agree that children are all different and meet milestones differently. I have one son (who is now 12) and five nieces and nephews and I honestly can’t even tell you when kids are supposed to talk/walk. I think my son did both right around the 12 month mark, but my twin nieces (who were full-term) are 16 months old and walk but don’t talk much. These are girls who have 3 older siblings and who are ALWAYS surrounded by tons of other people and children.
Each child is unique. I say let them be themselves. Is 16 months really the time to start deciding they all are “delayed and MUST HAVE INTERVENTION NOW OR THEY’LL END UP HIGHSCHOOL DROPOUTS”? Play with your kids, love your kids-they’ll be fine!
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December 1st, 2011 on 3:36 pm
Jenna,
I think it’s really sad that you’re not continuing T1′s developmental therapy. I’ve read your post, but I still struggle to understand why a mother would blithely do something like this. Most of the controversial topics in parenting (and life in general) relate to whether the risks of a particular procedure / intervention / approach outweigh the potential benefits. In those kinds of situations, many parents assess the situation differently, and we have to treat each other with a degree of grace, because we’re all trying to do the best we can.
But the thing is, there are no risks to T1′s developmental therapy, and there are no drawbacks. You are receiving the therapy for free. The only thing you need to give up is an hour of your time. So, your current therapist is not a good fit and her schedule doesn’t work for you? Get a new therapist, having a good relationship is vitally important. You think all she’s doing is playing with him? So what! It’s what he needs, and given that this is her job, I’m sure there is a method to her madness. You don’t want to drain state resources? Trust me, the state has made an economic decision to ensure that its future tax payers get early intervention now, so they’re not a drain later. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure and all that. The worst outcome in this whole scenario is that T1 spends an hour a week playing with someone, at no cost to you.
I do hope you reconsider. Ultimately, this decision actually doesn’t affect you. This is T1′s brain, his future, his life. He is at this malleable stage for such a short period, and the window to give him the intervention he needs isn’t that big. Sure, you may find out down the track that everything was fine, and he didn’t need the therapy anyway. But what if you don’t? What if there are bigger problems down the track? What if he desperately needed this therapy, but you decided it wasn’t worth one hour a week of your time to make sure he received it?
Claire
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Megan Reply:
December 1st, 2011 at 3:48 pm
I really agree with the points you make here.
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Andrea Reply:
December 1st, 2011 at 3:59 pm
I couldn’t agree with you more. What an excellent, articulate comment.
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Sarah Reply:
December 1st, 2011 at 4:39 pm
Wonderful. Exactly what I (and I’m sure many others) want to express but can’t put into words.
I also agree with your comment on procedures and interventions. I’d expect that as someone who researched birth so much and was adament against the risks of medical interventions, Jenna would have the same idea about minimizing risk her son’s development. Perhaps the gap is that Jenna doesn’t realize the impact to her? Not mean to be snarky, but I believe everyone fails to see the entire benefit when things don’t affect themselves. However, as a mother, she should realize the impact on her son.
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Rachel W. Reply:
December 1st, 2011 at 4:56 pm
I absolutely agree with all parts of your comment. Thank you for articulating those thoughts in such a clear and respectful way.
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J Reply:
December 1st, 2011 at 5:27 pm
Fifthed.
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Senora H-B Reply:
December 1st, 2011 at 5:46 pm
Sixthed, or whatever number we’re on. Well said.
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Jane Reply:
December 1st, 2011 at 6:24 pm
Yes, well said, and thoughtfully said.
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LeiLani @ Elle Golden Photography Reply:
December 2nd, 2011 at 3:05 pm
THIS.
I’m forever grateful for my mom putting me in speech therapy, even though I was old enough to remember how much it sucked. I’m now an articulate adult and I KNOW it’s helped me in so many professional situations.
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December 1st, 2011 on 4:01 pm
I think I would take advantage of the free therapist - find one that fits with your family! Glad to hear that speech therapy is going so well
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December 1st, 2011 on 4:27 pm
Boys and girls brains are different, starting in utero. Girls have a larger hippocampus and brain circuitry for language and observing emotions,whereas, boys have more of the brain space devoted to sexual drive, action, and aggression. I learned about this in “The Female Brain” by Louann Brizendine, M.D….fascinating book. I’m much more understanding of where my husband is coming from now.
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Danielle Reply:
December 1st, 2011 at 7:33 pm
The science in this book is actually really sub-par, just fyi …
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December 1st, 2011 on 4:46 pm
Hey Jenna! I’m so glad to hear things are going well and that you guys are on the right track to figuring out the kind of help T1 needs and/or doesn’t.
This post was especially interesting to me- I’m a social worker at a nonprofit agency that sounds a LOT like the agency you’re working with. We provide all kinds of services for kids including testing and treatment (speech included) for developmental issues. My job specifically is to work with the parents to help them navigate the system and advocate for them when needed.
I’m so intrigued by what you brought up about the overdiagnosis of little boys. I’m going to poke around and read the research on this, thanks for bringing it up! Will be watching for more updates, I hope your family continues to have success with the speech therapist!
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December 1st, 2011 on 4:48 pm
I couldn’t agree more. As a parent who has been through therapy in the last year with my child, there is NOTHING that can hurt T1 if you decide to continue the therapy. I really hope that you consider looking for a different occupational/developmental therapist. I understand being frustrated with the scheduling but what she was doing when she was there was extremely beneficial for your child, even if it did “look just like play”. She wasn’t giving into T1 to avoid a tantrum, she was building a bond within him to expand on in the future. I can almost guarantee that she would begin to push him to activities that he wasn’t comfortable with and with out the trust that she had built in the beginning, T1 would not want to try the new, more difficult activities. Please take a minute to remember that play is how children learn. It may not look like it means anything to us when they are emptying objects out of a wipe box over and over but it is the beginning of classifying objects for them. Each play activity a child does is a step to another more difficult, more thoughtful activity.
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josie Reply:
December 2nd, 2011 at 1:04 am
Exactly! I don’t see the point in stopping any of the therapies at this point since they are free and will in no way harm him, when if you stop the opposite may well be true.
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December 1st, 2011 on 6:13 pm
I know it’s easier said than done, but don’t worry too much.
All children develop at a different rate and I think that society has COMPLETELY forgotten that fact.
We have a nice neat little box that we try to SHOVE our children into.. and if they don’t fit perfectly they are “gifted” or “delayed” All because they don’t fit our “standard”
My first child spoke in full sentences and at length at 12 months old, I heard comment after comment about her being gifted, etc.. Now she’s 8 and while still swift in some areas her um.. “blond hair” is showing LOL. She’s a normal kiddo.
My 2nd spoke at a more average time but she’s tiny for her age.. That obviously meant we needed to take her to the dr. and give her growth hormones.
My 3rd child, my now 4 year old son is just now really learning to speak. He just didn’t care too before! Of course that didn’t stop the “aren’t you going to do speech therapy?” comments and questions.
We skipped the gifted classes, the growth hormones, and the speech therapy.. and you know what.. they are all doing just fine.
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Laura Reply:
December 2nd, 2011 at 11:01 pm
I think it’s really sad that you seem to be proud of the fact that you potentially prevented both your gifted child and your delayed child from reaching their full potential by refusing therapy. Therapy is there for a reason!
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Suzanne Reply:
December 3rd, 2011 at 9:10 am
Yep, that’s what we did! I’m so thankful the concept of therapy is thousands of years old so that we have all of the advances we do.. because the children were in therapy!
sheesh.. it’s like people have forgotten that parents know how to raise their children and do not have to have a degree for it LOL
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Christiana Reply:
December 3rd, 2011 at 10:25 am
While i can see where you would be offended by that person’s comment.. yours is practically saying “why do we need modern medicine? people have been around for hundreds of years are just fine. No vaccines for us! No surgery for us!” I mean.. really? Therapy is an advancement, why deny it? Experts recommend it because it helps, not because it hurts.
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Suzanne Reply:
December 3rd, 2011 at 7:15 pm
Oh I’m sure therapy is a tool needed for some children, just not as many as people assume need it.
And we’re one of those crazy families who don’t vaccinate or do doctor’s visits unless needed. I also know that they ARE at times, NEEDED.
It’s all about moderation to me. Many are too quick to medicate, put in therapy, etc.. Then there are those who refuse all treatment. Neither approach is a healthy one.
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Laura Reply:
December 4th, 2011 at 2:34 am
So who are you to judge th this child doesn’t need therapy? Frankly, if he does, he is bing harmed by not having it!
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Suzanne Reply:
December 4th, 2011 at 8:12 am
Did you read these comments?
My point was to not worry too much, and to let herself (being the mother) be the judge.. These comments were about MY children and yes, I think I can be the judge of that.
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Laura Reply:
December 5th, 2011 at 2:07 am
Yes, I did. Hence I found yours so incredulous!
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Suzanne Reply:
December 5th, 2011 at 6:28 am
Okay then.. Thankfully we don’t live in a world where strangers can tell mothers that their children need therapy.
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Christiana Reply:
December 4th, 2011 at 9:27 am
Many vaccines are needed for herd immunity… http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herd_immunity
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Christiana Reply:
December 4th, 2011 at 9:28 am
I hit enter too soon, vaccines are an issue where you are not only making decisions on your child, but the health of the community.
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Suzanne Reply:
December 4th, 2011 at 9:33 am
The best proof that vaccine’s are not effective. They only work if you are never exposed to the disease LOL. (the herd immunity argument). It’s the same if you don’t vaccinate.. if you never encounter the disease, you will never get it.
I will not get into a vaccine argument though. We have thoroughly researched it and are 100% confident in our decision.
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Christiana Reply:
December 4th, 2011 at 9:36 am
Understood it’s your choice, I just hope for your sake (and theirs) your children are never exposed to anything. I’m just all about evidence based medicine and work in public health, what can i say?
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Suzanne Reply:
December 4th, 2011 at 9:45 am
Remember, there is evidence for both sides.
And they have been exposed and contracted several of the illnesses many are vaccinated for, with no problems at all.
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Suzanne Reply:
December 4th, 2011 at 9:46 am
other than the being sick part of course!
Christiana Reply:
December 4th, 2011 at 9:51 am
but… the issue isn’t as much how someone with a healthy immune system reacts-it’s who comes into contact with the infected person. So if people with compromised immune systems (elderly, pregnant women,etc) come into contact with the infected person-the compromised person can become seriously, seriously ill. So yes, you should be concerned for your children’s well being, but also have compassion for those who may meet your infected children (I literally mean this if they are sick, not in an insulting way) and the consequences of that interaction.
Hannah Reply:
December 5th, 2011 at 3:58 pm
Suzanne, my cousin’s tiny newborn baby nearly died of whooping cough last year thanks to people like you. Vaccinations aren’t just about YOU and YOUR children. They are about the community at large. That rubella your kids caught might not have killed them, but it might have deformed the baby of a woman you didn’t even know was pregnant (given that you are most contagious before there are signs of infection), impacted on the system of an already compromised elderly person or passed on whooping cough to a newborn baby. You just DON’T KNOW.
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Suzanne Reply:
December 5th, 2011 at 7:28 pm
So you know for sure your cousin’s baby caught the whooping cough from an unvaccinated person who was walking around with the whopping cough and didn’t know it?
And if I had been vaccinating my son, and given him the vaccines I can’t imagine what would have happened to him. He had severe allergies to eggs as a baby (which vaccines contain). I refuse to risk my child’s health to supposedly benefit others. (not to mention vaccines are biblically unclean for the most part so we wouldn’t give them for religious reasons anyway).
I make no apologies for my view and feel not the slightest bit badly about it.
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Claira Reply:
December 5th, 2011 at 7:45 pm
… you wouldn’t give them for religious reasons? My father is a minister and I was completely vaccinated, because he wanted the best for me - and for everyone I came into contact with.
I hope your choices (as you continue to not feel bad about it) don’t end up causing you, your children, or others in your life a whole lot of pain.
Hannah Reply:
December 5th, 2011 at 7:52 pm
Wow, I can’t imagine anyone who can argue that they’re a good Christian (or good representative of any religion) could be so flippant about human life when it suits them.
Yes. We know for a fact that he caught the whooping couch from a family that chose not to vaccinate themselves or their children. They were family friends who choose not to vaccinate, and they ended up not only with an epidemic in their own home, but with my cousin’s baby almost dying. They were carriers before they were even symptomatic of the illness. If you understood science at all, you’d know that people are often most infectious before they even become ill themselves.
Frankly, I don’t care whether vaccines are biblically unclean. I don’t believe that your religious choices should impact on the lives of others. The fact is that they have the potential to kill somebody, but you don’t care because of religious choice, not science. Additionally, the moment you made this about religion and not science, and vague evidence you might have had for justifying your choice went out the window. The science of it is irrelevant to you, by your own admission. Don’t even dare pretend that it is about science at all. You have made it clear that your own dogma directs your choice and i am sure you will find any reason to justify that choice and pretend it is about your children’s welfare.
For the record: plenty of children with egg allergies get vaccinated with no issues whatsoever. My brother included, and his allergy is extremely severe. Multiple scientists have stated that is is entirely safe for people with egg allergies to be vaccinated and their reaction is going to be incredibly mild, at worst.
Suzanne Reply:
December 5th, 2011 at 7:58 pm
Actually, we chose to not vaccinate from science alone many years ago, we only started to keep the biblical laws on unclean/ clean things 2 years ago so it was certainly not the cause.
It’s not vague evidence.. I’ve attended a funeral from someone that died from the vaccine, I know many mom’s who’s children have been injured by them, try telling THEM it’s vague.
And again, it’s a good thing that people who think it’s right to interfere in people’s religious beliefs aren’t making the law.
As is, it’s my freedom to choose what is best for MY children, and I will continue to do that guilt free.
Suzanne Reply:
December 5th, 2011 at 7:59 pm
but with that I’m out.. don’t want to hog her blog anymore.
Feel free to jump over to mine or email me if anyone wants another reply.
Hannah Reply:
December 6th, 2011 at 12:47 am
Frankly, Suzanne, your attitude to the lives of others disgusts me. I find your interpretation of ‘science’ pretty interesting.
December 1st, 2011 on 7:47 pm
I’m glad speech therapy has been so helpful for you both. Some adults understand how to structure play intuitively or because they learned it, some don’t. It’s cool you are getting to add some skills to your parenting arsenal. If you decide to try another dev. therapist I hope you will find someone equally awesome.
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December 1st, 2011 on 7:55 pm
I read your blog a bit, and I’m sure that “crappy daycare” was an off-the-cuff comment that wasn’t intended to cause offense. I hope that was the case, particularly because (as people have pointed out) Early Childhood teachers often spend years studying the best ways to better the education and development of children under their care.
Regarding T1′s therapists - I don’t work in these fields, so can’t really comment on their relevancy. However, it might be worthwhile asking a developmental therapist the next time you’re in contact. I think you’ll find that there are numerous studies, research efforts and academic works dedicated to what you saw as your developmental therapist “just playing”.
As stated before, I doubt you meant any of this in a negative way. But you have such a large audience, perhaps you need to check whether it come across as though you’re denigrating some very worthwhile professions.
Finally, I am very glad that you’ve seen some improvement in T1. Also, sorry that my first comment here was a Tolstoy-length essay.
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December 1st, 2011 on 8:22 pm
Please, would you please at least invest in a few GOOD books about child development? Learning how to engage your child in a book is great, but there’s so much more to learn that is yours for the taking at most libraries or parent bookstores or bookstores that carry material for those studying Early Childhood Education. YOU can track your child’s progress, YOU can develop skills to engage and stimulate him…you just have to go looking for the information. I was SO disturbed when I recently came across a link of you trying to force your infant to pick a piece of paper out of a bowl. It’s OBVIOUS your baby wasn’t happy and wanted no part of your plan but you let YOUR desires and expectations trump your child’s needs. I understand you were filming a video but knowing to speak to him in soothing tones, turn him so he was facing you to give him a feeling of security didn’t happen. The way you handled him there tells me you don’t really have much in the way of instinct when it comes to little people. Some people are not born as good caregivers, some people need more guidance than others. I think you are someone who needs more guidance. For example, the therapist you’ve slammed understood that PLAY is how children learn. Playing is your son’s work. It’s how he learns. Find activities that encourage small and gross motor development, that help him to have an awareness of his body movements, encourage receptive as well as expressive language, provide him with opportunities to experience cause and effect, and allow him to be an agent on the world - let him EXPLORE and provide toys that encourage his development. You don’t want to invest in toys? Learn to MAKE toys or give learning experiences with items you already have around the house. Like the cliche of giving a child free run of the pots and pans and a wooden spoon or two. That alone = body awareness, small and gross motor development, cause and effect and so on. A child left in a pen with the same toys day in and day out is NOT going to become the person they could be. Also, aren’t there any classes in your community you could join with your son? Classes that expose him to music or reading? Classes run by people who have training in Early Childhood Education? Learn some games, learn some songs, see how other people interact with their kids. If you have money to spend on fashion, you have money to invest in your child. Please, get some help with this.
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December 1st, 2011 on 10:13 pm
And T1, does he seem to enjoy his new capabilities?
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December 1st, 2011 on 10:28 pm
I’m really interested to hear about T1′s therapies, thanks for sharing. I mostly work with children aged 3+ so I would really love to see what therapy for younger children looks like. I’m so glad you love your speech therapist. She sounds like she really embodies what any clinician’s main goal should be - to teach the parents skills to work with their children so that therapy is no longer necessary. As a therapist who works in a lot of homes with “absent” parents (over-worked, hyper-wealthy people with live-in nannies), I’m really glad to hear that you are making the point to soak in all of the information she can teach you.
As for the developmental therapist, it sounds like you didn’t click with this woman. As a behavioral therapist myself, the comment about her “placating” T1 by giving into his requests made me cringe. But I agree with the above commenters - I would love for you to request a new therapist. I really suggest you find a parent group in your area online and look around for suggestions. There really are some great therapists of all kinds out there!
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December 1st, 2011 on 11:11 pm
I think you are doing a great job as a mother. With regard to some of the rude comments generated by this post (the daycare issue), people sometimes look for ways to take offense. What is right for some families isn’t right for others.
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Stefanie Reply:
December 1st, 2011 at 11:58 pm
What is rude about readers voicing the fact that they felt offended? Jenna welcomes input and conversation in her comments, so I think it is fair that her readers should be able to let her know that they are unhappy about something. Most of the comments on this post have been thoughtfully worded and not full of rudeness or vitriol.
And your last sentence is exactly why some people took offense to daycare being called “crappy.” There isn’t one answer for every family, and some families need to rely on daycare. Calling daycare “crappy” only belittles readers who have chosen that path for their children.
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December 2nd, 2011 on 12:07 am
Quote: “I see new ways to focus his attention when working on a puzzle, how to turn it into a learning experience instead of me passively sitting by and clapping when he gets it right. Now I pick up the pieces, say the name of the animal, make the sound of the animal, hold it next to my face when I say it so he sees my lips move, make him say “please” before I give him the piece, and use lots of positive reinforcement when he chooses to put it in the correct spot.” Unquote
As a sahm, I really can’t believe that you had to be TAUGHT how to work on a puzzle with your son. I find it sad that you would describe your play-time with your son as passive, but I suppose that it totally makes sense why he would have delays if you aren’t getting down on the floor, playing and TEACHING him. Maybe he’s not “delayed” in the sense that something’s “wrong” with him, he just simply doesn’t know how to do these things (like puzzles, or speaking) because of his lack of interaction with his mom.
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December 2nd, 2011 on 12:10 am
The developmental therapist was likely attempting to build rapport with T1 and assess how he interacts without frustrating him. Therapists do not (and should not) treat their clients as an authority figure would. Therapists are much more lenient, and for good reason. We have to build a trusting, secure environment for the child (or adult) to feel comfortable expressing themselves in, and part of that is creating a new world without rigid rules and constant correction. This beautiful escape is what allows transformation to take place. It’s an unconditional positive regard that a client will rarely have elsewhere. It’s the driving force behind good therapy. Next time, if you don’t agree w something someone is doing, ask them if it has a purpose. You might be surprised that most people that have had years of experience & training have a method to their madness even if you disagree. Learn something from them but then find a therapist you feel comfortable with.
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December 2nd, 2011 on 1:40 am
It sounds like you are all learning and benefiting a lot from the therapy. I look forward to hearing more details about what you are taking away from it as a mother.
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December 2nd, 2011 on 5:56 am
I’m so glad you’re enjoying the speech therapist so far! I definitely think it would be a good idea to consider continuing the other therapy, especially since it’s free.
As a special education teacher I work really closely with speech and developmental therapists, and while there are a lot of things that may look like they’re just play, or that they aren’t doing any good, there’s always a reason for them. I also do a lot of things in my job that may look like my kids aren’t really learning or that I’m not doing anything special, but there’s always a really good and well-researched reason why it’s happening.
Maybe you could try it out again for a few weeks and spend some time asking the (new) therapist why she is doing the things you’re seeing? Then you could get a better idea of the thinking behind the methods she’s trying, and you can re-evaluate if it’s a good fit for you. It’s entirely possible that once you hear the explanations you’ll still feel the same way - and that’s fine! But maybe you’ll get a new perspective and change your feelings on it!
Of course, no matter what I think, you’re T1′s mom in the end and you and TH have to make the decision for yourself. I know I hate getting unsolicited advice, so please feel free to ignore my ramblings - I just thought I’d throw my thoughts out there!
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December 2nd, 2011 on 5:57 am
Whoops! The above comment (from “Corey”) is actually from me! He logged into my computer to comment on a TWLC post and I didn’t realize he never logged out!!!
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December 2nd, 2011 on 8:25 am
It sounds like the speech therapist is a great fit. What an amazing find. My brother did not speak very many words (like less than 10) until he was 2 and began to speak in almost complete sentences. I think there is so much pressure on timelines and milestones. It can be so incredibly stressful.
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December 2nd, 2011 on 8:46 am
I’m not a parent, so I don’t fully understand what you’re going through, but if it helps, I didn’t say a word until I was 2 and a half (not even mama, dada, etc.). I spontaneously started speaking in full sentences at that point. I’ve since gone to law school, practiced law for 6 years and am now doing an MBA. It wasn’t indicative of any general cognitive deficiency!
That being said, if the speech therapist works for you and your family, awesome. I firmly believe that Mom and Dad know best about their own kids. Good luck!
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December 2nd, 2011 on 1:52 pm
I’ve been thinking more about this post and it reminded me of a saying some of the researchers in my department bring up -
“The plural of anecdote is anecdotes, not data”
When Jenna writes a post people chime in with their experiences (usually positive because we want to be supportive). Which is great, but can give the impression that since so many people share the same experience, Jenna is likely to as well, when really there is no reason to think that will be the case (although it might be).
Jenna, you mentioned wanting to see some “solid double-blind studies to convince me otherwise” regarding the standards for development in boys, but you are basing stance that on anecdotes, not data. ‘Women who have sons and attend the same LDS church in Chicago’ or even ‘People who read and comment on That Wife’ are not unbiased samples. The studies the policy makers in your area use to determine funding for therapy are will definitely be more robust than anecdotal evidence. If the US is anything like over here in NZ the government will only provide services for free if they think it will save them money in the long run, and have good evidence for their value.
Obviously you need to do what you and TH feel is right for T1, but be cautious of basing your decisions on anecdotes rather than data.
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Sophia Reply:
December 3rd, 2011 at 9:12 am
I like this statement in general- “If the US is anything like over here in NZ the government will only provide services for free if they think it will save them money in the long run, and have good evidence for their value.”
I agree with this. Especially in America, where the political climate since the 80′s has been “government is basically a paint chip eating monkey playing with its own poo” so it can’t be trusted with anything, and social programs = Teh Socializms! If there is a social program that made it out alive it’s because it managed to somehow avoid being cut because the evidence of its efficacy could not so easily be refuted with scare tactic referencing Nazi Germany, lol.
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December 2nd, 2011 on 2:14 pm
Jenna, I applaud you for making a decision about your son that YOU (and I assume TH) felt was the right thing to do. I think we too often take the recomendations of medical professionals as the “end all be all.” We have to remember that these individuals are human too, and sometimes have to make blanket decisons for our children based on (what I believe can be) skewed statistics.
Now before everyone gets their panties in a wad, I love my children’s pediatrician! I value her advice as a medical professional, but in the end my husband and I make the decisions about what is right for our children.
When our youngest son was 4 months old, we (my husband and I) noticed that his head seemed a little flat on one side. At his well visit I didn’t even have to mention it to her before she brought it up. She noticed that he wouldn’t turn his head to the left all the way, and diagnosed him with torticollis (the muscles on one side of his neck were a lot tighter, therefore preventing him from turning his head) She recommended some different things we could do (flip him around on the changing table, nursing him so that he had to look to the left etc) She also wanted us to visit a orthopedic dr. to see about getting a helmet.
Now A LOT of babies have flat heads (even some of my previous children) so I was alarmed that she thought he “would be a good candidate” for a helmet. We went to the appointment and she scanned his head. The helmet that she wanted us to get was $3000 (not covered by ins.) and we would also have to have it adjusted every two weeks.
We decided not to get a helmet. Our Pediatrician warned us that it would get worse, and be harder to treat as he got older. But we just had a gut feeling that this was not necessary. It wasn’t, he’ll be two next month has a beautifully shaped head.
I wanted to tell you this to encourage you. God gave this child to YOU (and TH) because you are the best parents for him. You know him best. Get informed, seek wise counsel and pray. But ultimately YOU make the decision about his care.
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Sophia Reply:
December 3rd, 2011 at 9:22 am
To me, it is so hard to understand this sentiment. Yes, it was expensive, but in the end wearing a helmet is not as scary as, say, an experimental surgery or drugs that are still in the research state. This falls under the category, to me, of things I *would* do, just in case. I would seek out a second opinion, sure, but if a doctor told me my child had a medical condition and needed to wear a helmet now or else it would be harder for him later- I would do it. I would not defer to my gut feelings on it. I would say yes and immediately start researching every single foundation I could that could help me with the costs.
If it was risky surgery, experimental drugs, a new and not very well tested form of intervention? Yes, that’s different. But a doctor recommending a helmet, that may not end up being needed- ok, the worst thing that happens is that your child has to wear a helmet when he really didn’t need it, and you’re out a chunk of money. Plus, your son was young when it happened, so he won’t remember any feelings of being ashamed of being different for his helmet. But if it *had* worked out poorly? It would have cost easily twice as much, and been far more traumatic for the child.
To each his own, but I can’t help but cringe a little at the line about how God gives children to each of us and we can “seek wise counsel and pray” because in the end we know best. People who think they can pray away their child’s cancer, or go without diabetes medications on “faith” also think they know best and should be able to make the final decision about the care of their children. At some point, we have to realize that while children are wholly dependent on us *now*, and while under the law they are truly *ours* with which to make decisions, someday they will be their own person- and I would hate to have to explain to my 8 year old son why he had to wear a helmet for 2 years and get picked on mercilessly in school, because my gut told me not to. Eventually, further down the line, they will be their own people and need to make their way in the world- the decisions we make, especially regarding their health, are long lasting.
I loathe the fear mongering launched at parents, and the Mommy Competitions seem to feed paranoid levels of anxiety about every little thing to do with children. But when it comes to basic interventions that have virtually no negative effects to do, and a host of potentially negative effects to *not* do, my money is on just doing it, just in case.
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December 4th, 2011 on 1:45 pm
So glad the speeach therapy is going well. What gains so quickly! My only red flag was the references to Harvard. It’s not about getting into college -but being ready for kindergarden..and life! Good luck and stick with it.
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December 5th, 2011 on 3:30 pm
I think one of the best things about therapists and other educators, are all the ideas/insights they can provide. I think I have improved my parenting over the years thanks to my son’s preschool teachers. My Mother learned a number of handy things when my sister went through speech therapy. Often they can see things that we might miss in the day to day chaos that comes with being a parent. I am really glad that the speech therapy is working well for your son and you.
Definitely call back and see if you can find a better fit for developmental therapy. It can take a bit of work to find a personality fit. While it may seem like the playing they are doing isn’t providing immediate help, it is more of a slow burn in terms of what it provides. There is a lot of really good research (especially some new stuff) on the importance of play. Play-based learning (and sorting out the social stuff) is the first step toward a child being comfortable and confident with academics later on.
It is funny to think of how playing with a ball and interacting with others has an effect years later when doing reading/writing/math but it does.
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December 6th, 2011 on 9:51 am
I am an Early Interventionist (like your 2nd therapist). It is true that boys that stay at home are more likely to have a language delay. These speech delays are the majority of the children I work with. I always try to explain it to parents like this “Boys are much more interested and advanced in their gross motor skills (running, jumping, climbing everything) at this point in development compared to same aged girls. Also when a child is at home with a parent you know and anticipate their wants and needs because you know your child so well. So say T1 gets fussy at 2, you as a mom know it’s time for snack. Or when T1 points toward the kitchen, mom knows T1 wants more drink. Where at daycare that teacher has 5-10 other children in the classroom and is much more likely to prompt a child to vocalize wants/needs. With the added need to communicate with peers to share and play with toys in a daycare setting. You are not doing anything wrong, some minor changes in approach will probably fix this language delay quickly.” Also that T1 is not talking suggests to me that he is content and having his needs met and just needs a little extra push. There is a program in each state like your own where services are provided to families at no charge (what insurance/medicaid doesn’t pay the state covers because $ shouldn’t be what hinders children from getting the assistance they need), it is federally mandated. The goal is really to catch small delays early so that it doesn’t become a more significant delay and eventually when they start school they are off to the best possible start. I also recommend requesting a new EI, I do a lot of the holding pictures up to my face, prompting them to vocalize/request for more blocks/toys, and of course reading, singing, labeling, and talking about any and everything.
Also if it makes you feel better unless you saw a Doctor T1 doesn’t have a diagnosis. Just a documented delay.
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